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post #21 of 85 (permalink) Old 07-29-2019, 06:32 PM
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sorry didn't see alpha's post.
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fwiw, my 280CE (45mm thick) prolly has a higher cooling capacity and my fans run 1450+ just to keep my water temps ~10c above ambient w/3770k (4.7/1.3) 980ti (1500/1.27v) gaming for hours.

check the mounting but really get a bigger rad and crank up the fans - maybe get some noctua leaf blowers?

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post #22 of 85 (permalink) Old 07-29-2019, 08:26 PM - Thread Starter
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I don't think you've been paying attention as he has an aluminum kit. The best option is to get rid of it on Ebay and put in copper components. Putting 1.5-2x the radiator space just to match thermal conductivity of copper is kind of ridiculous.


It's $500 worth of aluminum ($380 if you don't count the case) https://www.amazon.com/PowerSpec-PC-.../dp/B07RN9GVFJ
Ha funny you say that. I priced out what I needed to go copper and it was like $380 with all ek parts. I only need 12 fittings, the gpu block, cpu, and a SE360 rad. Would that be good enough ? I don’t want to add a second rad as spacing is an issue with the distro block and my vert mount.
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Quote: Originally Posted by looniam View Post
sorry didn't see alpha's post.
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fwiw, my 280CE (45mm thick) prolly has a higher cooling capacity and my fans run 1450+ just to keep my water temps ~10c above ambient w/3770k (4.7/1.3) 980ti (1500/1.27v) gaming for hours.

check the mounting but really get a bigger rad and crank up the fans - maybe get some noctua leaf blowers?
Thanks for the help bud. I think I just need to get copper bits and sell my aluminum stuff to the next person, what a expensive learning curve in water cooling!
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Well if you do go with copper parts (best option instead of throwing even more money into aluminum parts that only EKWB makes) I would suggest you go with $51 XSPC TX360 radiator which is 20mm thickness and has 22FPI. Hardwarelabs Nemesis GTS normally is recommended in the 30mm thickness but it's out of stock at PerformancePCs. EKWB's SE radiator is consistently the worst performing slim radiator. Alphacool's ST30 slim radiator is better performing with less flow restriction and similar FPI, but it doesn't have the thermal performance of the HW Labs (highly flow restrictive) or XSPC radiator (a bit more airflow restriction due to higher FPI). Swiftech also makes the Hydrae GT in 27mm thickness with 14FPI but I haven't seen many reviews on it.

I don't know if you can reuse the distribution plate and such , maybe there's no aluminum in the pump + reservoir. S1 pump is probably some sort of DDC variant.

For Intel LGA1151 CPU block there's many options with that kind of aesthetic,
EK Classic RGB $70 http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-su...kel-plexi.html
XSPC Raystorm Neo $80 https://www.performance-pcs.com/rays...el-chrome.html , https://www.amazon.com/XSPC-RayStorm.../dp/B074G43BKZ
EK Supremacy Evo RGB $85 http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-su...kel-plexi.html
Aquacomputer Cuplex Kryos Next $88 https://www.performance-pcs.com/aqua...ic-nickel.html
Alphacool Eisblock XPX clear version $83- 90 https://www.outletpc.com/vp3512.html (satin not fully clear), https://www.performance-pcs.com/wate...r-version.html
EK Velocity A-RGB version is $110 (pricey) www.performance-pcs.com/ek-velocity-d-rgb-nickel-plexi.html

Fittings (don't use aluminum fittings with copper products) you can get for about $5 each from Barrow or any mainstream watercooling brand (EKWB, XSPC, Alphacool, Swiftech, etc.)

For GPU RTX 2080 block there's many options,
$145 Heatkiller Acrylic + Nickel RGB variant https://modmymods.com/watercool-heat...rgb-15601.html
$140 Eisblock GPX https://modmymods.com/alphacool-eisb...m01-11662.html
$128 EK Classic Nickel Plexi https://www.amazon.com/EKWB-EK-FC-Cl.../dp/B07PMLTY4S / https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc2080-...classic-nickel
$160-175 EKWB Vector (not worth it over Heatkiller...) https://www.microcenter.com/product/...--nickel-plexi , https://www.amazon.com/EKWB-EK-Vecto.../dp/B07GZZT78Y

Should be right around $300 considering how many fittings you have to swap.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Slickdall View Post
Thanks for the help bud. I think I just need to get copper bits and sell my aluminum stuff to the next person, what a expensive learning curve in water cooling!
you're welcome. hey, atleast you didn't have a leak that soaked the rig, making it a really expensive lesson.

alpha has some good suggestions for copper parts. you can also look at http://thermalbench.com/ and https://www.xtremerigs.net/ for what stuff does (rads, pumps and blocks) to get an idea what kind of heat dissipation you can expect. you can also take a cruise through the watercooling pic thread (stickied in this sub forum) and see the show offs (meant nicely). might give you a better idea where/how to put stuff.

i'm lazy, i bought the EK 280P kit added a uni block for my gpu a little later. i could have gotten better/cheaper buying individually but well i had no idea what all i would need. however you're halfway there having built a rig already.

i suggest you consider going a little over kill on the rad and getting a nice strong pump.

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If your gpu temp is shooting straight up almost instantly under load then you're probably looking at poor contact. However if it's a gradual rise in temps then it's more likely insufficient cooling. A copper system over aluminum won't be a huge difference.

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Hi,
Not sure why heatkiller iv pro cpu block wasn't suggested about the best block around
Seems silly to suggest a heatkiller gpu block and not the cpu block

I too was a 280p ek kit buyer
CE series rad that are mediocre at best
EK fans suck but can probably get you by for a little while if they work at all

And of course ek premix cryocrap fluid I still have nightmares from using

Live and learn.

Like I said that pretty reservoir limits rad space if it's aluminum too don't get used to distilled water only which is not recommended anyway.

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A 360 SE isn't super good tool cool all the stuff, but the watertemp should stay around 45°C imo. And this means the GPU should stay under 65°C as well. If you're seeing 80°C on the GPU, then something isn't right.
I'd check the screws and thermalpads on the GPU. Maybe the screws are too long or the thermalpads are too thick. And remount everything. My 1080TI was around 50°C with a single 360GTS and with my dual rad setup, the temps dropped to 40°C.

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A copper system over aluminum won't be a huge difference.


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Hi,
Not sure why heatkiller iv pro cpu block wasn't suggested about the best block around
Seems silly to suggest a heatkiller gpu block and not the cpu block
@AlphaC specified that the blocks shared the type of look the OP was going for. The HeatKiller IV is great, but has a totally different look.

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