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post #21 of 41 (permalink) Old 08-05-2019, 06:26 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted by broodro0ster View Post
Strange, I have 6 fans on 1 header and I'm not having any issues. The AQ6 can handle a lot on a single header.
And you could also setup a max fan speed in the settings so they don't trigger the overcurrent protection.

I didn't like the curve because it constantly change the fan speeds and that's annoying to hear. With my target controller, it adapts the fan speeds slowly if the loads are changing and if there is no load difference, it keeps the fan speed very constant. You can have some overshoot when starting a game, but nothing too bad.
Yeah maybe it was a PWM problem.
Changed the header settings so it controles the fans via voltage. now its working fine. Only thing is that my aquaero is dying somehow. but thats is another topic^^(already emailed support)

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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
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Not sure how the hint was missed this op doesn't even know what temperature the room is where he/ she is sitting
Hard to take this thread seriously
Hard not to think you're patronising smug prick.
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Doesn't help on page 1 you ignored three request for room temperature or said I don't know

Clearly nobody past that bothered to read follow up questions which again you didn't know lol but I'm the prick

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Most motherboards have have temp sensors on them my Chrosshair has 5. One of them a board sensor at idle it reads almost 10-20 C lower than the others. So by my best guess my current best guess would be 28C inside the case with 30C recorded. The highest temp on the CH6 is the chipset at 49C.
This is a pretty good guess because when I was doing WC and had a thermo-couple inside the case. With enough air flow into the radiators the coolant temps out of the radiator should not be more than 1 degree higher internal air temperature. That is if the radiators are large enough. If the water temp out of the CPU had more than 2-3 C above radiator out, the water block is clogged, needs thermal paste or just inadequate. I do not think there are many available that not capable. Any block capable of cooling a OC FX-9950 is more than what is needed.
My last WC was a FX-9950 with two OC'd WC RX-380s. A 25mm x 140mm raditator and a 280mm x 40mm radiator with push/ pull fans, case mounted. That is about 800-900 watts load at 100% for GPUs + CPU powered by a 1100 watt supply.
Now I just use a air cooled Ryzen and a air cooled GTX 690 an a 700 watt supply.
Pretty much good enough for who it is for.

Water moving slow through radiators transfers the maximum amount of heat to the air. Water moving quickly enough through the water block removes the maximum amount of heat from the CPU.

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Quote: Originally Posted by warpuck View Post
Water moving slow through radiators transfers the maximum amount of heat to the air. Water moving quickly enough through the water block removes the maximum amount of heat from the CPU.
This is not a good way to think about it. You want the water moving quickly through both for maximum energy transfer. Slow in the radiator means it starts to cool down and colder water will transfer less heat to the air, so the longer the water stays in the radiator the less effective the radiator is. This will cause your water to rise to a higher temperature at steady state. It is not intuitive but ideally the water would be moving so fast we do not see a temperature increase in the CPU block or a decrease in the radiator. In reality we do see a tiny temperature increase and decrease but they should be very minor, <2°C in any decent loop.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Asmodian View Post
Wow! That really makes me want an AQ6! Time to go shopping.

Good advice. That is a feature I have wanted for years, since I got my first 4x140 radiator and realized that all available methods of fan speed control resulted in too slow when gaming in a cold room and/or too fast when idle in a hot room.
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Thanks for the advice everyone i really appreciate it. I'll have a go setting up my AQ6 to use the Delta for the fan curves.
I put together a guide that will walk you through exactly how to set up fan curves with an air/water virtual temperature sensor. Just click on the link in my signature

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Quote: Originally Posted by Barefooter View Post
I put together a guide that will walk you through exactly how to set up fan curves with an air/water virtual temperature sensor. Just click on the link in my signature
Sweet, thanks! My AQ6 should be here very soon so I will try it in the near future.
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Your temps sound perfectly reasonable to me.

I find the GPU a better indicator of loop "health" then CPU temperatures. CPU's since they've gotten small are pretty random.

I probably would have done my first non water build in a long time if I had known Ryzen was going to behave the way it does going into it.

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Doesn't help on page 1 you ignored three request for room temperature or said I don't know

Clearly nobody past that bothered to read follow up questions which again you didn't know lol but I'm the prick

How is ambient temp relevant to maximum safe water temperature?

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How is ambient temp relevant to maximum safe water temperature?
Good point, I would consider 50°C to be a maximum safe water temperature, so there is a little buffer before things really go bad fast (~60°C). Knowing ambient is important for understanding the loop but the true max safe temperature does not change. If your ambient is really high is is important to have more/better radiators to be able to keep your water below ~50°C.
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