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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-14-2019, 06:23 PM - Thread Starter
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Water Cooling Shopping List - What about 5700 XT?

I'm going to build my first real WC rig soon. I've been shopping around, reading threads here and reviews and recommendations everywhere, and I think I have a pretty good idea of what I want.

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Lighting is still undecided. I want lights in it but not the crazy swirly rainbow strobe stuff. If I buy parts with RGB, I will probably set it to the closest to white I can get out of it and have it constant.

For the CPU, I'm looking at Heatkiller IV but they're pretty scarce right now. I kinda like the look of the Swiftech Apogee SKF Prestige, but I don't know how it stacks up to the Heatkiller.

For the GPU, I need recommendations. I know that EK and Bykski both have FC blocks for the 5700 series. The EK is hella expensive and the Bykski is a little too flamboyant for my design. Is anyone else developing a FC block for these cards? If so, do we have an ETA?

I plan on running a HWL 360 radiator mounted in the front/side of the O11 case. Would a GTS XFlow be enough to cool these components, or would I need to go for a GTX?

I will get a pump/res combo with a D5 PWM, but I still haven't decided on the size or manufacturer.

Fans...maybe Varders? I want something that will be on the quieter side but still keep temps down. I'd also like to have either white (or as close as I can get) LEDs on the fans.

I also considered just getting a Swiftech Boreas 360 kit. It wouldn't save any money but it would be convenient to get that and then add a GPU block to the loop later.


So help me out. Give me your opinions and recommendations.

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Swiftech Boreas kit is decent but you'd probably get better value buying radiator from HWLabs or XSPC TX series (for slimmer 20mm thickness). I haven't seen any reviews on Hydrae GT radiator (27mm thickness).


In addition, the Apogee SKF LT is a $50 CPU block from them so either the fin count was cut (as they still advertise the same 125 micron fin/channel thickness) or the materials are cheaper than the Apogee SKF because there's no other ways to cut $20 off a $70-90 CPU block.


There's been no in depth reviews of the CPU blocks on Ryzen chips but the fin thickness is smaller (i.e. more fins per inch) on the apogee SKF as well as an increased fin height. Whether it translates into a temperature advantage worth noting is the real question , especially considering the flow restriction.


For the CPU just realize you're only going to get another 100MHz or so out of a 3800X over 3700X.


A single 360mm GTS xflow is capable of dissipating around 300-350W of heat per 10°C coolant rise https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/09/1...ator-review/4/


For fans you can probably opt for Arctic P12 PWM.


There's RX 5700XT waterblocks in the works from EKWB and Alphacool.


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https://www.igorslab.media/zurueck-a...n-rx-5700xt/2/

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GPU Blocks from Heatkiller as well. AFAIK, there's no ETA yet for the 5700 blocks.

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Add a flow meter and water temp sensor.
If going soft tubing go with Mayhems, also use them for the fluid, and get their Blitz kit to clean your rads and system.

As for fans Noctua’s are the best but are an ugly brown and expensive. Vader’s are nice but can be loud.

Other options then a D5 is the Mcp35x2.

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Add a flow meter and water temp sensor.
If going soft tubing go with Mayhems, also use them for the fluid, and get their Blitz kit to clean your rads and system..
Strongly agree on all of this. Don't cheap out on the little things that make a huge difference, o r get sucked into bad fluid or tubing. Makes a big mess down the road.


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As for fans Noctua’s are the best but are an ugly brown and expensive. Vader’s are nice but can be loud.

Other options then a D5 is the Mcp35x2.
Really can't agree regarding the Noctuas, excepting the NF-A12x25. That is a phenomenal fan, the rest are mediocre for rad usage. There are much better fans out there for the application. And, yes, Vardars are simply nasty sounding.

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Additionally, Vardars don't like heat, at all. Which is also very ironic, as they do tend to overheat..
And when they work overheated? Soon enough their sound signature changes; if you thought they were noisy in the beginning? Boy you're in for a surprise ^^

As to Noctua fans... if it's not an IPPC, i don't even consider it. They are the exception (and for reasons that have nothing to do with performance btw) to this rule; i use them for everything, be it water, air, intake or out. For every other noctua fan? There are better performing, quieter, or cheaper ones out there. Yes, that includes the new Sterox one -at the kind of range it's thought to be 'perfect'? Might as well use a BeQuiet fan; they're even quieter. Won't even mention performance-, not worth its premium.

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Thanks for the info everyone

Looks like Varders are out, so maybe Arctics or Noctuas are in. I will also probably be getting a GTX instead of a GTS, since the GTS is probably going to struggle to cool both my CPU and GPU. I'm sure it's capable, but the GTX can do it at lower fan speed/noise.

I had written more in my original post but between my spazzy computer and my ambien fog, I didn't post it all. I do plan on using Mayhems flush kit, soft tubing, and fluid. I like the look of the Mayhems pastel (white, grey, or black) but I see it has mixed reviews so I'm not totally set on the idea yet. I will probably use Barrow fittings and I will add a flow meter/temp sensor as well as a drain port.

In case you can't tell, I'm going for a black and white/monochrome theme. The case has some of both, but the interior is mostly white. I will either use black chrome or plain chrome for the fittings, depending on what CPU block I end up buying. I'll leave the radiator black. As far as looks vs performance, I'd say this build is going to be right in the middle. My computer sits in a very prominent location in my house, and I don't want a big blinky noisy eyesore (which is why I plan on setting the RGB lights to white and leaving them alone). I do play games, but I'm not competitive. I stick to RPGs and an occasional non-multiplayer FPS. I don't have to have 200+ FPS, but I do want 100 or so consistently. I have a 1440p, 144Hz 27" freesync display, so as long as I can keep it fed with pixels, I'll be happy.

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Thanks for the info everyone

Looks like Varders are out, so maybe Arctics or Noctuas are in. I will also probably be getting a GTX instead of a GTS, since the GTS is probably going to struggle to cool both my CPU and GPU. I'm sure it's capable, but the GTX can do it at lower fan speed/noise.
If you can fit them in the budget, which I assume you can since you are looking at Noctuas, the be quiet! Silent Wings 3 is a better and quieter performer than either of those - http://thermalbench.com/2016/10/21/b...h-speed-fan/3/

Also, you have the GTX and GTS backwards. The GTS and SR2 outperform the GTX and GTR at lower fan speeds - https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/1...-round-2015/5/

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If you can fit them in the budget, which I assume you can since you are looking at Noctuas, the be quiet! Silent Wings 3 is a better and quieter performer than either of those - http://thermalbench.com/2016/10/21/b...h-speed-fan/3/



Also, you have the GTX and GTS backwards. The GTS and SR2 outperform the GTX and GTR at lower fan speeds - https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/1...-round-2015/5/


With the PWM Issues on the Be Quite’s I wouldn’t consider them better. Since they don’t work well with the AQ6 without modding I wouldn’t recommend them over Noctua’s.

Now if you don’t want PWM control then maybe they are better.

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