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Take a look at this review of one of there kits from the performance line from EK , performs worse that a coolermaster AIO and basically on par with a kraken x72 https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...er,5840-2.html . My evga 2070 Super xc ultra is a hybrid already running on a AIO so I wont be adding a block to that its just the cpu that needs some good cooling so I just don't see it worth the extra money for a kit
Dude, that's an EK 240mm up against 360mm AIOs and performing just as well.

That 240mm rad/fan setup is 1/3rd smaller and is performing just as well.

That test would be a lot different if they compared all 360mm radiators.

EK would be way ahead.
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Quote: Originally Posted by acquacow View Post
Dude, that's an EK 240mm up against 360mm AIOs and performing just as well.

That 240mm rad/fan setup is 1/3rd smaller and is performing just as well.

That test would be a lot different if they compared all 360mm radiators.

EK would be way ahead.
that was only one review I saw on also on youtube against a kraken x62 and it was exactly the same results . Again doesn't justify the more than double price tag . Rather save the money on a AIO
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Most if not all CLC/AIO Coolers are made from a small selection of OEMs. Then the vendors like Corsair, eVGA, NZXT etc... add the selection of fans and warranty, and input on the block design. I believe this still holds true.

I think most of the stuff is within a small margin of each other temperature wise. most of the variation being from fan type. Often times a 280mm unit like the H115i performs similarly to a 360mm unit as well, so its a preference or what size cooler your case will support which may dictate the better option.

Some vendors provide fans that run quieter at the expense of running a bit warmer where others sacrifice noise for better performance. I'm sure within the same class the differences aren't all that great, especially if the OEM is the same.

I'd go with the company that provides the best value fan and warranty. I've read that eVGA is great value for money, has a 5 year warranty but the fans are noisier, I believe corsair has quieter fans and a 5 year warranty but run warmer and cost a bit more. I'd go with a corsair h115i or h150i, or the evga clc 280 or clc 360 depending on your budget. (these are all units i'm considering myself, just waiting for the price to be where I want it to be on sale)

I agree that staying away from a 240mm unit is a good idea, i have an enermax 240mm (cost was a driving factor at the time of purchase), and I don't like the load temps on my 9700k with it, I want to upgrade it as its the last piece from my previous computer but haven't yet got the opportunity yet.

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Quote: Originally Posted by hellasinc View Post
that was only one review I saw on also on youtube against a kraken x62 and it was exactly the same results . Again doesn't justify the more than double price tag . Rather save the money on a AIO
I had an x62 and swapped to a 240mm EK MLC Phoenix setup and it's night and day better. 2x the liquid capacity and much less heat soaking. I did have to lap the EK block, but I got a good 10c reduction in peak temps over my x62.

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I had an x62 and swapped to a 240mm EK MLC Phoenix setup and it's night and day better. 2x the liquid capacity and much less heat soaking. I did have to lap the EK block, but I got a good 10c reduction in peak temps over my x62.

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I was talking about the cheapest kit they had which was from the classic series which is 312 euros which was being outperformed by a AIO which is 140 euros
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Get a good air cooler or go with aio kit like EK or swiftech like suggested above. You seem set on a cheap corsair clc but these things are cheap garbage and don't last long at all.
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AIOs are only really decent in space-constrained builds, IMO. If you have room, a good air cooler is going to be about the same or better, and you don't have to worry about the pump going out.

I had a Corsair H110. Now I have a Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Power, and the thing is beastly. Highly recommended.



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Dude, that's an EK 240mm up against 360mm AIOs and performing just as well.

That 240mm rad/fan setup is 1/3rd smaller


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Quote: Originally Posted by hellasinc View Post
that was only one review I saw on also on youtube against a kraken x62 and it was exactly the same results . Again doesn't justify the more than double price tag . Rather save the money on a AIO
that is not clc or even an aio but a full kit for an open cooling loop.

can you switch or add a radiator(s) to a clc?

no.

can you add or switch water blocks with clc?

no.

do you get this much hardware in a clc?
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no.

and compared to buying each part separately from different manufacturers it will still be pricey for its performance.

still i get it, you don't want to spend that much, fair enough but maybe you should ask about a clc and not an aio let alone comparing the price of a custom cooling kit.

Quote: Originally Posted by acquacow View Post
Dude, that's an EK 240mm up against 360mm AIOs and performing just as well.

That 240mm rad/fan setup is 1/3rd smaller and is performing just as well.

That test would be a lot different if they compared all 360mm radiators.

EK would be way ahead.
no. a 360 is 50% larger.

Remember the golden rule of statistics: A personal sample size of one is a sufficient basis upon which to draw universal conclusions.
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