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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-09-2019, 11:47 PM - Thread Starter
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Going EK from AIO, maybe?

It's been ages since I built a system. Feb. 2011 to be exact. The Corsair AIO on that system is still running to this day, so I wanted to go Corsair again. I mean 8 years without anything but dust removal on a OC'd 2600k sounds good to me!

I put together a pretty decent set of parts, assembled them and found I have extremely poor contact between the Corsair h150i pro and the 9900k. I've assembled it multiple times and I know it's done right. Actually there is just a small ring of contact around the outside of the CPU. There is still untouched TIM on the Corsair where the convex isn't filled. Maybe that is a CPU issue, I am not sure... I'm hoping it's not a MOBO issue, but I won't know until I try another option.

So I got to looking at other AIO's to see if there is another option but they all seem to be using the same crap mounting from Asetek.

I found some comparisons that lead me to see the all aluminum EK Fluid Gaming A240 kit. But then I got to thinking CU is still better. I don't want the Aluminum risk.

So is there any real option out there outside something like a basic CPU only kit/system from the performance line, or assemble my own kit from the Quantum line, about $500ish? I'm afraid I may have picked a terrible case for the option. I went Corsair Obsidian 500D SE.

Or should I try another AIO?

At this point I have 3 kids and a wife now, so I'm out of the loop with the latest greatest technology and know next to zero about a custom loop. I'm reading through the blogs on EK's site but don't have the kind of time it takes to digest everything in just a couple days and make a good call. I am making a point of building a great system though, something that will last me years again and want this done right.

AIO is attractive from a known quantity perspective. I'm a fast learner.

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Just get another aio save time and money and know you have a five year warranty which a custom loop/ kit will not have.

Even corsair now has custom loop kits if you love corsair stuff but costs is a lot more and not all that much different especially if you look at 240mm kits aluminum or copper.

280mm kit or aio minimum and 360mm would be best.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Sedyn View Post
It's been ages since I built a system. Feb. 2011 to be exact. .
Well, since you've been out of the loop, a lot has changed. A big part of that change has been EK going from a (more like THE) leader in quality blocks, to being a marketer of all things mediocre in liquid cooling while retaining a ridiculous price tag. So....yeah.....pretty much the Corsair of custom loops, now actually competing against Corsair in the battle of overpriced mediocrity.

If you want to go custom loop, you can put together a far better loop at lower cost than going with EK components. There are plenty of threads on the subject, and I'm sure many would chime in here with suggestions.

If you want to stay AiO, you can get into a Swiftech X3, which is all copper and expandable. It was designed specifically to add a rad and GPU block to. It's reasonably priced and has lots of argeebee capabilities if you are into that - http://www.swiftech.com/drive-x3-aio.aspx

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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 09-11-2019, 04:48 PM - Thread Starter
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Thanks Guys,

Sad to hear about EK, part of the reason I was looking that way was my MOBO has the EK CrossChill VRM Waterblock . I opened a cap and it's copper in there, so I would need a CU based system to integrate that.

However I want to get this thing up and running, and since I have a convex CPU chip, I am probably stuck with bad contact no matter what CPU waterblock I get.

Thanks for the heads up on the Swiftech X3. I will look into that. Seems more of what I am after.

I'm looking to get 5.0 out of this CPU, not going nuts and in a couple years when I want to build something new I can take my time and make something while this system is still running, or if I want to I can just install something on this.

If this build was a car, I'm looking for a reasonable maintenance, high performance yet reliable build. Not a high maintenance ultra performance race car.

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If your 9900K is really concave/convex then delid it, because if that's the case just about any cooler is going to give you less than optimal temps. That's assuming there is genuinely something wrong with the IHS and not something you *think* is wrong, but if it is you should fix that before putting a penny into a cooler.

My 9900K is by no means a lottery winner and it's cooled by a H115i just fine @ 5.0.

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EK's gone to shart, and Mayhem's has finally taken over the coolant world.

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If your 9900K is really concave/convex then delid it, because if that's the case just about any cooler is going to give you less than optimal temps. That's assuming there is genuinely something wrong with the IHS and not something you *think* is wrong, but if it is you should fix that before putting a penny into a cooler.

My 9900K is by no means a lottery winner and it's cooled by a H115i just fine @ 5.0.
Checked against a straight edge it's 100% concave. I think I'd return it before I risked a delid. I'd probably mess it up.

Right now with CPU temps as high as 70 my coolant temp is pretty stable at 30. I'm gonna switch TIM and remount it tomorrow. If I can't get decent results, I will return it and see what I get next time. It's from Newegg.

@skupples I'll keep them in mind. The more I look at all the wires etc coming from the h150i I dislike it more and more. I don't mind spending $500 on a really good system that will be reliable and perform quietly. My computer is in the bedroom and my wife hates it already. RBG has gotta go.

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@skupples I'll keep them in mind. The more I look at all the wires etc coming from the h150i I dislike it more and more. I don't mind spending $500 on a really good system that will be reliable and perform quietly. My computer is in the bedroom and my wife hates it already. RBG has gotta go.
Keep in mind, when @skupples says Mayhems has taken over the coolant world, he is referring to exactly that - coolant. As in the liquid that goes in the loop, and just that.

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Checked against a straight edge it's 100% concave. I think I'd return it before I risked a delid. I'd probably mess it up.

Right now with CPU temps as high as 70 my coolant temp is pretty stable at 30. I'm gonna switch TIM and remount it tomorrow. If I can't get decent results, I will return it and see what I get next time. It's from Newegg.

@skupples I'll keep them in mind. The more I look at all the wires etc coming from the h150i I dislike it more and more. I don't mind spending $500 on a really good system that will be reliable and perform quietly. My computer is in the bedroom and my wife hates it already. RBG has gotta go.
Hi,
You'd also be flushing a 3 year Intel warranty down the toilet

If you end up returning
Think about the board too and look into amd 3000 series
Although temps they are having the same issue with 3000 series too basically no blocks are really optimized for them yet.

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