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So looking at them I see some that are like $16 vs $62 and look exactly the same:
https://www.performance-pcs.com/wate...d3h-f10-p.html vs https://www.performance-pcs.com/wate...-f10-p-ss.html I can't tell the difference between them other than price.
The expensive one is made of stainless steel, the other one is nickel plated brass.

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I think I figured out what I need, https://koolance.com/qd3-fsg4-bk-qui...ed-g-1-4-black and https://koolance.com/qd3-ms10x13-bk-...-x-1-2in-black, would be easier if they came in sets as well

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I think I figured out what I need, https://koolance.com/qd3-fsg4-bk-qui...ed-g-1-4-black and https://koolance.com/qd3-ms10x13-bk-...-x-1-2in-black, would be easier if they came in sets as well
Hey so we have opinions about CDCs The best on the market are by CPC https://www.cpcworldwide.com/

The NS4s are the ones EK uses and they're really good. The LQ4 are amazing, really really well made. theyre like the Optimus of QDCs

The issue with Koolance ones are they will flake quickly. The blacks flake instantly, the nickel ones pretty quickly.

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Hey so we have opinions about CDCs The best on the market are by CPC https://www.cpcworldwide.com/

The NS4s are the ones EK uses and they're really good. The LQ4 are amazing, really really well made. theyre like the Optimus of QDCs

The issue with Koolance ones are they will flake quickly. The blacks flake instantly, the nickel ones pretty quickly.
100% Agree. I also have been using CPC's QDC's pretty much exclusively, Also NS4's as @Optimus WC recommend, and they are some of the best I have used in terms of reliability, Quality, and ease of use.

Koolance were some of the only ones I had left to try that come highly recommended, so I just bought A Batch of 4 Pairs of QD3's and a batch of 4 Pairs of QD4's to see how these perform on the bench's they are going on for the next year. I had heard of the flaking that Optimus has talked about, I did notice that on the Swiftech ones I had Previously, and heard that could be a problem on the Koolance's but I will only be using Distilled Water and Biocide, so I am wondering if that will make a difference (I bought Black).

The Biggest reason why I wanted to branch out was because I like the Idea of Plugging the QDC Directly into the Block, or Frame, which I can't do with the NS4's. But in terms of Price, Quality, and Reliability, you really can't go wrong with the CPC's, especially if you get them direct from a CPC supplier (They have a different Color Hue then the Ones from EK, and seem to have slightly more responsive Release Mechanism in them, not sure if you have noticed this as well @Optimus WC ?)

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100% Agree. I also have been using CPC's QDC's pretty much exclusively, Also NS4's as @Optimus WC recommend, and they are some of the best I have used in terms of reliability, Quality, and ease of use.

Koolance were some of the only ones I had left to try that come highly recommended, so I just bought A Batch of 4 Pairs of QD3's and a batch of 4 Pairs of QD4's to see how these perform on the bench's they are going on for the next year. I had heard of the flaking that Optimus has talked about, I did notice that on the Swiftech ones I had Previously, and heard that could be a problem on the Koolance's but I will only be using Distilled Water and Biocide, so I am wondering if that will make a difference (I bought Black).

The Biggest reason why I wanted to branch out was because I like the Idea of Plugging the QDC Directly into the Block, or Frame, which I can't do with the NS4's. But in terms of Price, Quality, and Reliability, you really can't go wrong with the CPC's, especially if you get them direct from a CPC supplier (They have a different Color Hue then the Ones from EK, and seem to have slightly more responsive Release Mechanism in them, not sure if you have noticed this as well @Optimus WC ?)
Re: the koolance ones, the flake from friction. Actually, they all flake from friction. Nickel isn't good for that kind of sliding friction, hard chrome is the ticket (not regular chrome, which is trash).

For the EK ones, EK originally used the standard gray CPC ones, then it looks like their more recent ones are black, though same style. Not sure if they still say CPC on them.

The NS4 doesn't have G1/4, but the LQ4 has G1/4 and the LQ2 has G1/8, which actually isn't that much smaller, good for manifolds.

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Hey so we have opinions about CDCs
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The issue with Koolance ones are they will flake quickly. The blacks flake instantly, the nickel ones pretty quickly.
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Re: the koolance ones, the flake from friction. Actually, they all flake from friction. Nickel isn't good for that kind of sliding friction, hard chrome is the ticket (not regular chrome, which is trash).

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Hi,
Thought by now you'd learn exaggerations really don't help you, they just bite you went you're wrong

The koolance male and the outside of it does not come in contact with water flow only the very end where there is a o-ring to seal

So even if or when it shows scratches/.... it makes no difference since the female is all stainless steal inside it and so is the tip on the male
Whether it's black or not the black will not get into the fluid so it makes no difference if it shows some wear.

Best way to limit scratches/... is to lubricate the male end before inserting it into the female dip it into fluid/... so just clean the female before reinserting.
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Hi,
Thought by now you'd learn exaggerations really don't help you, they just bite you went you're wrong

The koolance male and the outside of it does not come in contact with water flow only the very end where there is a o-ring to seal

So even if or when it shows scratches/.... it makes no difference since the female is all stainless steal inside it and so is the tip on the male
Whether it's black or not the black will not get into the fluid so it makes no difference if it shows some wear.

Best way to limit scratches/... is to lubricate the male end before inserting it into the female dip it into fluid/... so just clean the female before reinserting.
Thrash you make watercooling sound so DIRTY! LOL

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Yeah thought i was starting to direct some cheap p**n but at least it's not ribbed for her pleasure like ek magnitude stuff

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Re: the koolance ones, the flake from friction. Actually, they all flake from friction. Nickel isn't good for that kind of sliding friction, hard chrome is the ticket (not regular chrome, which is trash).

For the EK ones, EK originally used the standard gray CPC ones, then it looks like their more recent ones are black, though same style. Not sure if they still say CPC on them.

The NS4 doesn't have G1/4, but the LQ4 has G1/4 and the LQ2 has G1/8, which actually isn't that much smaller, good for manifolds.
So you know I love me some CPC QDC's, we've had this discussion. But I to date have only used the NS4's, I love the ones direct from CPC (Or in my case through a local supplier), they love that I am using them for Computer water cooling, they are so fascinated by it, because all of their normal customer use cases are medical or industrial.

Anyways, I hadn't really branched out to any of their other products, so when you mentioned the LQ4, I just went off to grab some, went direct to the colder website to get a ballpark on how much I should expect my Supplier to charge me.

And then I saw this... $63!!!! For just one Female QDC!!! And I still need the male Side, The Male with Barb to go With it, another $43, thats $106 before taxes and shipping for just One Pair!!!

And I thought the Bitspower QDC's were expensive!

Not so sure I am going to allow myself to even try those, I will have a hard time justifying that one to clients when the NS4's are literally a 5th of the Price and Work just fine. LOL! (Let me know if you have a connection on price with those though, I definitely will be reaching out to my Supplier on Monday to see if their pricing is similar, but unless CPC just charges an outrageous markup on their Site, I have a feeling this is what to expect...

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