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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 10-20-2019, 09:14 PM - Thread Starter
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New Loop for 3900x + 2080TI

Have most of my components purchased and going to be running on air for awhile but really want to get the build for my water cooling loop figured out since my evolv-x was purchased with water cooling in mind. Also I will be vertically mounting the video card.

For my last build I went with a ekwb kit and then added in the GPU to my loop with an additional radiator. While I've really been happy with my ek system I'm open to other options especially if the performance is greater for the cost.

1. What would be the best options for the 3900x heat block?

2. What would be the best option for the gpu heat block? I'll likely get a reference design like the evga black but that hasn't been purchased yet.

3. What radiator setup for my case? Was thinking 360 for the front and 240/360 for the top. Think either will be more then enough to get the heat out.

4. Best fans for the radiator, doesn't need to be RGB.

5. Soft or hard tubing? I did soft tubing on my current build but have been debating hard tubing.

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1. Im quite happy with my Heatkiller IV block. It cools my 2920x and 2600 with no problems. But if you have the EK block, use that for your 3900x and see if it cools it decently.

2. Ive never tried the new EK, Alphacool, Corsair, Phanteks GPU blocks. But nowadays, most CPU/GPU block (except the TR4 blocks) tend to perform close to one another with a small temp difference.

3 & 4. If you're happy with your EK rad + current fans, stick with it. Other wise, HWL for rads and NB eLoops or Darkside GT fans.

5. Personal preference.

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1. TechPowerUp has, I think, one of the better lineup of CPU performance. Here is the latest CPU block lineup: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/c...r-block/6.html

2. I wouldn't sweat GPU blocks. GPU's are easy to cool and block performance is generally going to be too close to call. Pick the block that you feel looks the best IMO.

3. The issue with running radiators in series (as far as air flow) is the top radiator looses efficiency. If you run a front and top, turn your rear exhaust fan around to blow fresh air into the case for the top radiator.

4. Whats your budget on fans? Whats your preference; performance or silence?

5. Soft tubing FTW.

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Hi,
Doubt it matters once someone has ek on the brain it's pretty senseless to suggest other products keep on keeping on

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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Doubt it matters once someone has ek on the brain it's pretty senseless to suggest other products keep on keeping on
I like EK products but had seen too many warranty issues to be a fan. Swiftech for me.

I had a swiftech pump go bad and emailed them. They didnt ask for the pump back, just sent a new one within a day of initiating the claim. Put in the new pump and the CPU block was leaking. I think the water boiled in the CPU block when the pump failed and the acrylic had spider cracks. Again, within one day of emailing, a brand new block was sent out, didn't need to send the CPU block back either. While arguably they aren't at the forefront of performance or price, Swiftech gets my business 100%.

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Don't forget to add a flow meter and temp sensor for the water

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I should clarify that I'm selling my old computer completely with the full water cooling loop so I'll be doing a fresh start, don't really care about the brand as long as the performance I get corresponds with the price paid.

EK makes it easy to price out a build and that came right around $700 from their website. I'd like to stay around that or lower unless there is a good case to bump up the specs.

I don't think either either the 3900x or 2080ti has much overclocking headroom will likely be pushing for the best stable overclock.

For noise I'm not going for a silent build but don't want this unnecessarily load, think on the EK site I put down silent overclocking.

1. I'll look into that techpowerup link but I'm liking the heatkiller block. Don't know what there best option for am4 is.

2. Once again thanks for pointing out the heatkiller option, will likely come down to cost though if performance is equal.

3. Those HWL radiators look really nice, will have to look through what they have and see what I can fit in my case.

4. What would be the best layout for the loop, guess I just stuck with series out of simplicity but my GPU sees the hotter water of my cpu.

5. Will probably stick with soft and be creative with fittings to clean up the build. best size and brand?

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The quietest fans relative to performance would be Noctua NF-A12x25. Paired with with 2x HardwareLabs GTS 360mm would be a good setup.

Loop flow order does not matter. The Liquid temps will equalize after a couple minutes of running and then temps will gradually rise and fall based on load.

Bitspower make the best fittings, but they are pricey. I especially trust them for rotary fittings. For regular straight fittings, it doesn't really matter much.

for colored tubing I like PrimoFlex Advanced LRT tubing, but it's a bit on the thicker side. Bitspower compression fittings are tight, so it can be very hard to get the compression rings on. Cheaper Barrow fittings go together easier with the LRT tubing.

For clear tubing, I like Mayhems ultra clear.

If you don't mind matte black, EPDM rubber tubing will be the easiest from a maintenance standpoint. EK ZMT is probably the most common.

There is no best size. I always run 1/2x3/4 (13/19mm) because I like the look of bigger tubes.

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What HWL series? Make sure you get a fan with high enough static pressure, some of the HWL radiators have some pretty high fins per inch.

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What HWL series? Make sure you get a fan with high enough static pressure, some of the HWL radiators have some pretty high fins per inch.
Except the SR2 series. At 9 FPI, they're optimized for lower RPM fans.

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