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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 12-07-2019, 08:33 AM - Thread Starter
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I recently dropped my 7900X OC from a 24/7 4.7 to 4.6. Mainly just to lower temps from the 70s to the 60s. I know a 7900X OC'ed to 4.7 (direct die mounted) in the mid 70s isn't bad, but it made me wonder if I have enough flow in my loop as I think temps should be much lower than what I am seeing. My loop consists of 2 EK PE360s, an EK XE360. EK Supremacy CPU block and an EK X-Res/D5 (full speed) combo. All radiators have 3 ML120s on them in a push configuration. It's all soft tube with large radius bends and 6 elbows, so I am concerned that head pressure is really affecting flow. I'm thinking of switching from my present PC 011 air to a new Dynamic XL just to get more "breathing room" for my components as it was pretty challenging to get everything into the 011 air. If I make the switch, I'll have room for another D5, but is it worth it?

On a separate note, I may yank the 7900X and put a 10980XE in there if they prove to be decent overclockers.

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post #2 of 34 (permalink) Old 12-07-2019, 08:51 AM
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Hi,
Probably just need another water block
Heatkiller iv pro or velocity
EVO is old.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Probably just need another water block
Heatkiller iv pro or velocity
EVO is old.
I thought about that. I took mine apart and cleaned it although it looked perfect. From what I have read the Heatkiller IV is a great performing block and it looks great too. Performance between all 3 blocks seems to be within a couple degrees +/-. If I go the new case route, I may give hard tubing a try. I appreciate the input as you have helped me in the past with positive results.

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Quote: Originally Posted by RichKnecht View Post
I recently dropped my 7900X OC from a 24/7 4.7 to 4.6. Mainly just to lower temps from the 70s to the 60s. I know a 7900X OC'ed to 4.7 (direct die mounted) in the mid 70s isn't bad, but it made me wonder if I have enough flow in my loop as I think temps should be much lower than what I am seeing. My loop consists of 2 EK PE360s, an EK XE360. EK Supremacy CPU block and an EK X-Res/D5 (full speed) combo. All radiators have 3 ML120s on them in a push configuration. It's all soft tube with large radius bends and 6 elbows, so I am concerned that head pressure is really affecting flow. I'm thinking of switching from my present PC 011 air to a new Dynamic XL just to get more "breathing room" for my components as it was pretty challenging to get everything into the 011 air. If I make the switch, I'll have room for another D5, but is it worth it?

On a separate note, I may yank the 7900X and put a 10980XE in there if they prove to be decent overclockers.

The 10980XE has so much headroom for OCing unlike AMD which comes clocked to max pretty much. AMD OCing is dumb you put high voltage just to get 4.3Ghz and it already comes with 3.9 ahd 4.1Ghz and 4.2Ghz on high workloads. The Intel chip stock at 3Ghz can go all way up to all cores 4.9 to 5.0Ghz ,,, You just have to inject a proper vcore voltage so it is stable.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Turtle Rig View Post
The 10980XE has so much headroom for OCing unlike AMD which comes clocked to max pretty much. AMD OCing is dumb you put high voltage just to get 4.3Ghz and it already comes with 3.9 ahd 4.1Ghz and 4.2Ghz on high workloads. The Intel chip stock at 3Ghz can go all way up to all cores 4.9 to 5.0Ghz ,,, You just have to inject a proper vcore voltage so it is stable.
and lots of cooling, IE: not an AIO or air blower.

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Quote: Originally Posted by skupples View Post
and lots of cooling, IE: not an AIO or air blower.



Oh ya tell me about it. Need to stick the case into a small refigerator or will things get watery and mess up system ?

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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Probably just need another water block
Heatkiller iv pro or velocity
EVO is old.
Nonsense...
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OK, seems that we got a little off topic here I'm thinking that swapping cases and adding a second D5 pump can't hurt. Maybe even switch to push/pull on the XE360.

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Oh ya tell me about it. Need to stick the case into a small refigerator or will things get watery and mess up system ?
I uh.. no. Enjoy setting yourself up for failure. OCN will do nothing but profit from it thanks to all the clicks you'll generate via people saying "told ya that h100 wasn't gonna be big enough for your 10XE"

it's basic math. devices are designed to dissipate certain amounts of heat. IE: "effective up to 250w"

as to the fridge, not enough power. You'd have better luck just having a stand alone AC in your office, so your rads get nice cool air.

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OK, seems that we got a little off topic here I'm thinking that swapping cases and adding a second D5 pump can't hurt. Maybe even switch to push/pull on the XE360.
adding a second pump is a great move, though remember gains from flow taper off after 1GPM ~120lph.
my dual mcp35x2 is pushing 10 years of age, n they're only $200

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and yes, 90s directly off of the pump drastically reduce flow potential. 2nd pump will nip that in the bud, but so will replacing some hard 90s for bitpower's snake 90s.

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