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EK Phoenix Kit

Hello everyone Today I noticed the EK-MLC Phoenix was on clearance on EKs site an was wondering how good do they perform and are their any issues with these specific kits?
The 240+pump is $108 and the block is $48 and was thinking to even get another rad+pump with a gpu block if they are reliable.

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I've seen a couple of issues with the electronics on the rad/pump (essentially a splitter) being janky, other than that I really haven't come across any consistent recurring issues.

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They perform about the same as "top" AIOs; hard as that may be to believe. This isn't just me, this is what you'd have found on your own. Had you bothered to look that is.
(am assuming you haven't, given your asking)

Effectively you're paying a lot more for the potential of 'extra' 'connectivity'. Do you plan on adding a second GPU? A second CPU perhaps on your single CPU mobo?
If not... buy an AIO for your CPU, buy a "watercooled" GPU; or buy an AIO kit for your current GPU. they do exist.
Same exact temps, less money.

Now if on the other hand 'expanding' is a thing for you?
Swiftech. Have a look on ther website. They look atrocious (for me anyway), but they perform.

Lastly, this is the internet. People have already made up their minds about something, but make threads to ""ask"" about it anyway, just for the fun of having others typing for no reason whatsoever. Should you fall in this category, as Ciarlatano said, be warned you may be facing issues. The kind of issues that can cost you dearly, as they can affect the health of your actual components.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Aenra View Post
They perform about the same as "top" AIOs; hard as that may be to believe. This isn't just me, this is what you'd have found on your own. Had you bothered to look that is.
(am assuming you haven't, given your asking)

Effectively you're paying a lot more for the potential of 'extra' 'connectivity'. Do you plan on adding a second GPU? A second CPU perhaps on your single CPU mobo?
If not... buy an AIO for your CPU, buy a "watercooled" GPU; or buy an AIO kit for your current GPU. they do exist.
Same exact temps, less money.

Now if on the other hand 'expanding' is a thing for you?
Swiftech. Have a look on ther website. They look atrocious (for me anyway), but they perform.

Lastly, this is the internet. People have already made up their minds about something, but make threads to ""ask"" about it anyway, just for the fun of having others typing for no reason whatsoever. Should you fall in this category, as Ciarlatano said, be warned you may be facing issues. The kind of issues that can cost you dearly, as they can affect the health of your actual components.
I understand your first assumption that "Had you bothered to look that is." Although it's pretty wrong but I can understand why you would assume that, but the last part is just a little too aggressive .

I appreciate your time writing that but you have to understand reviews and some redditors that built their first rig where a friend recommended them this kit as it's from EK "duh it must be better than any AIO" are not reliable at all (look at their old kits fiasco).

That's why I ask these questions in here even if they tend to be a little stupid, I respect every and each member's opinion as 80% of them will speak out of personal opinion and not copy paste what ever they found on the internet.

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I was looking also at the new cm 360 aio as it seems to be a very good option and if I get a good deal on those ppc-3000 fans from noctua I might get six of them for under $100 for a push pull configuration but what hub will be sufficient to drive the six of them at Max speed (not 24/7 ofc)

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Quote: Originally Posted by Awsan View Post
just a little too aggressive .
I appreciate your time writing that
You're more than welcome; as to my tone, depends on one's standards i'd assume. For today's ultra sensitive "i am offended/have rights" standards, yes, it's indeed aggressive. But these standards aren't mine.

As to your actual topic, nothing to do with Reddit, which incidentally i happen to avoid like the plague.
Given EK's previous "AIO", one expected the Phoenix to be at the least as good if not better, given the pricing bump. All we got was an often faulty (check our own forums), overly plastic, under-performing (compared to their previous one) yet overly expensive piece of.. nothing really.
I thus, rightfully in my mind, feel free to disagree, expressed it all.. accordingly.

And again, for expanding/connectivity, check Swiftech. Alphacool offers connectivity too, in case no one else mentions it i may as well, but they are a company i'd trust even less than EK. And in this too i have ample reason to go ahead and state it.

As to your last post, well..
- don't buy expensive fans for an AIO, in fact don't replace them altogether, not for performance reasons; AIOs don't scale past 2000ish RPM, don't scale past a certain CFM/mm2O ratio (that they of course won't mention to you). Money for nothing. Guaranteed. Your sole reason for replacing their default fans is either a faulty one obviously, or a noisy one. Like say with a new Noctua or a BeQuiet. Which is again not advised, because barring EVGA's AIOs, they just don't make that kind of noise anymore.
- push-pull on AIOs is an equal exercise in futility. Don't. Barring the placebo effect, nothing is all you'll get for it.
- CM has a good pattern going on in their AIOs, which i believe they've kept in their newest ones. Not a bad choice, though they are overpriced for what they offer. That's RGB for you, more money. In your shoes, i'd look for an old Corsair one (pre-RGB variant), or an older (again pre-RGB) CM one, they're still available; between them, i'd pick the older CM one. Otherwise either an Arctic or a Thermalright one from the newer ones.

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I use a Phoenix 280 kit on my lapped 9900K. It performs about 5-6c better than a ML360R and a H150i and is quite a bit quieter on the pump side. And it doesn't suffer from heatsoak as much so on really high wattage overclock a the difference gets a bit bigger.

It however is a disaster to build in a smaller case as the QDC's are huge and the tubing will not bend at all lol. Also, the rad format is quite thick and long for a 280 with the pump there so it can get very tight...

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They perform about the same as "top" AIOs; hard as that may be to believe. This isn't just me, this is what you'd have found on your own. Had you bothered to look that is.
(am assuming you haven't, given your asking)

Effectively you're paying a lot more for the potential of 'extra' 'connectivity'. Do you plan on adding a second GPU? A second CPU perhaps on your single CPU mobo?
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Now if on the other hand 'expanding' is a thing for you?
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Lastly, this is the internet. People have already made up their minds about something, but make threads to ""ask"" about it anyway, just for the fun of having others typing for no reason whatsoever. Should you fall in this category, as Ciarlatano said, be warned you may be facing issues. The kind of issues that can cost you dearly, as they can affect the health of your actual components.


What's your problem dude?

I was just looking at these last night. But I think it was already out of stock.

I thought there were more options of aios with qdc's. Couldn't find any more. Was looking for a way to do a full cover block on my GPU without going all in on water cooling.

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You're more than welcome; as to my tone, depends on one's standards i'd assume. For today's ultra sensitive "i am offended/have rights" standards, yes, it's indeed aggressive. But these standards aren't mine.

As to your actual topic, nothing to do with Reddit, which incidentally i happen to avoid like the plague.
Given EK's previous "AIO", one expected the Phoenix to be at the least as good if not better, given the pricing bump. All we got was an often faulty (check our own forums), overly plastic, under-performing (compared to their previous one) yet overly expensive piece of.. nothing really.
I thus, rightfully in my mind, feel free to disagree, expressed it all.. accordingly.

You assume wrong. I'm not easily offend and I found your response to be rude and crass too. No need to be uncivil to anyone and your tone was uncivil

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