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post #1 of 58 (permalink) Old 01-14-2020, 03:39 AM - Thread Starter
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Are my temps too high ?

Hi guys,
last month I got a 7900x and a EVGA x299 FTW K motherboard, 32Gb 3600mhz of Patriot Viper Steel Ram and my PSU is a Silverstone SST-ST75F-P.

Furthermore, I've got a EK Supremacy Evo, a Corsair 900D, 1x XE480 + 1x XE360 rads, a D5 pump @85% speed and 7x Be quiet silent wings 3 120mm fans, running @ 1200rpm max.
The Cpu is delidded and direct die mounted with the ICEMAN Delid Die Guard and Liquid Metal on top.
My GTX980TI is in the same loop as my 7900x but not overclocked and has stock TIM on the GPU.

My final settings are 4.5ghz all core, no Avx offset (Avx 0), VIN 1.850v (input voltage), VID 1.212v (OCCT 1 Hour Small Data Set stable @ 1.175v + 0.037v =1.212v overhead for 100% stability)

During 30 to 60 fps rendering, with hybrid and svp (smooth video project), I'm getting a max temp of 80 C, the system is pulling 480w in total from the wall.

During a 5 minute OCCT Small Data Set run, it's getting unstable @ 4.6ghz, AVX0, VIN 1.838v, VID 1.225v, reaching 99 C and pulls 747w from the wall.

Are these temps fine for a XE480 + XE360 custom loop, or too high?

Thx.
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They look a little high but just the temps mean nothing; I really need the water temps are or at least ambient air temps.

I think you have enough radiators but not sure; ultimately it depends on how efficiently they are working. How do you have them mounted in your case?

If you have a water temp sensor, the temp should be ideally no more than 10* over ambient air; I try to shoot around 5* over ambient.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Ki2Is87 View Post
Hi guys,
last month I got a 7900x and a EVGA x299 FTW K motherboard, 32Gb 3600mhz of Patriot Viper Steel Ram and my PSU is a Silverstone SST-ST75F-P.

Furthermore, I've got a EK Supremacy Evo, a Corsair 900D, 1x XE480 + 1x XE360 rads, a D5 pump @85% speed and 7x Be quiet silent wings 3 120mm fans, running @ 1200rpm max.
The Cpu is delidded and direct die mounted with the ICEMAN Delid Die Guard and Liquid Metal on top.
My GTX980TI is in the same loop as my 7900x but not overclocked and has stock TIM on the GPU.

My final settings are 4.5ghz all core, no Avx offset (Avx 0), VIN 1.850v (input voltage), VID 1.212v (OCCT 1 Hour Small Data Set stable @ 1.175v + 0.037v =1.212v overhead for 100% stability)

During 30 to 60 fps rendering, with hybrid and svp (smooth video project), I'm getting a max temp of 80 C, the system is pulling 480w in total from the wall.

During a 5 minute OCCT Small Data Set run, it's getting unstable @ 4.6ghz, AVX0, VIN 1.838v, VID 1.225v, reaching 99 C and pulls 747w from the wall.

Are these temps fine for a XE480 + XE360 custom loop, or too high?

Thx.
Hi,
For a stock or not delidded 7900x probably normal on a ek evo

You can try a newer generation water block it will at least do a lot better than ek evo is doing

There is also the optimus signature block but that one is 200.us the foundation is 120.us but does a lot better.
https://optimuspc.com/products/found...pu-block-intel
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ASUS x299 Rampage VI Apex
GPU
Titan Xp with copper Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's b-die default timings 16-16-16-36
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
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evga 1200-P2
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2-280GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads with D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
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Optimus is a great block, probably the best on the market. Get a filter/flush your loop though, as those fins are very tight and even the smallest debris will clog it up.

But I think that will only solve part of your problems. I think your radiators are not operating effectively.

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Hi,
Direct die is fiddly and not on right or making good contact.
Most people abort it's such a pita.

CPU
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Motherboard
ASUS x299 Rampage VI Apex
GPU
Titan Xp with copper Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's b-die default timings 16-16-16-36
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
evga 1200-P2
Cooling
2-280GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads with D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 pro & 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
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CPU
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RAM
Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's b-die default timings 14-14-14-34
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Power Supply
EVGA 1000-P2
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2-240 GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads/ D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
For a stock or not delidded 7900x probably normal on a ek evo

You can try a newer generation water block it will at least do a lot better than ek evo is doing

There is also the optimus signature block but that one is 200.us the foundation is 120.us but does a lot better.
https://optimuspc.com/products/found...pu-block-intel
For that $ I would go to Heatkiller IV Pro
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For that $ I would go to Heatkiller IV Pro
Hi,
Depends really
If PPC had one it might be good but if PPC didn't and had to buy from watercool HK 4 pro would be nearly as much as a better optimus foundation block where shipping is dirt cheap 7.us usps instead of 30 euro fedex.

I've got 2 copper plexi heatkiller 4 pro's by the way

https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...l#post28261118

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i9-9940x With Optimus Foundation copper-plexi and Heatkiller VRM Plexi-Copper water block
Motherboard
ASUS x299 Rampage VI Apex
GPU
Titan Xp with copper Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's b-die default timings 16-16-16-36
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
evga 1200-P2
Cooling
2-280GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads with D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 pro & 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
Mouse
Redragon Perdition
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CPU
i7-5930k with Heatkiller IV Pro Plexi-Copper and koolance vrm water blocks
Motherboard
X99 Sabertooth
GPU
EVGA 1080ti FTW3 with Water block
RAM
Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's b-die default timings 14-14-14-34
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Power Supply
EVGA 1000-P2
Cooling
2-240 GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads/ D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 and 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
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Heatkiller is a good block but the Optimus V2 fins are much thinner and I would wager performs better. I haven't seen any reviews yet. Either way, performance should be close.

Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Direct die is fiddly and not on right or making good contact.
Most people abort it's such a pita.
Hardmounting can be a PITA. I've always used original mounting hardware and washers/spacer approximately the thickness of the IHS to insure each corner is getting equal pressure.

The 7900X has a big die and should be an easy mount. I just finished my 8700k and that die is tiny. I had some concern over the shallow CPU silicon so I used some 1mm 3M insulation foam stuck behind the die to keep it sitting "proud". Mounted perfect the first time.

Asus Prime Z370, Intel 8700k @5.0Ghz, Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti, 16GB @3400 CL14, Watercooling: x2 MCP355 pumps, x1 280 on front of case, x1 360 on top of case, x1 140 on back of case, x1 240 on bottom of case

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On one of my systems I have the black copper that cools none delidded 6950X OC to 4.6GHz, temps never go above 90C and radiator fans (Noctua) are at 80% RPM.

I have tried that with Aquacomputer and Koolance blocks and I couldn't get that so block makes a difference and I've always used Heatkiller, never disappointed

Btw. Maybe this new Optimus is good
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On one of my systems I have the black copper that cools 6950X OC to 4.6GHz, temps never go above 90C and radiator fans (Noctua) are at 80% RPM.

I have tried that with Aquacomputer and Koolance blocks and I couldn't get that so block makes a difference and I've always used Heatkiller, never disappointed

Btw. Maybe this new Optimus is good
Hi,
Run blender open data full test and see what it does

https://opendata.blender.org/

Just lowered my avx offset by 1 not at avx 2 on 4.8
Still have two cores at 79c so optimus foundation is doing quiet well
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i9-9940x With Optimus Foundation copper-plexi and Heatkiller VRM Plexi-Copper water block
Motherboard
ASUS x299 Rampage VI Apex
GPU
Titan Xp with copper Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's b-die default timings 16-16-16-36
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
evga 1200-P2
Cooling
2-280GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads with D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 pro & 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
Mouse
Redragon Perdition
Audio
Built in realtek and Insignia 2.0 soundbar HSB318
CPU
i7-5930k with Heatkiller IV Pro Plexi-Copper and koolance vrm water blocks
Motherboard
X99 Sabertooth
GPU
EVGA 1080ti FTW3 with Water block
RAM
Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's b-die default timings 14-14-14-34
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Power Supply
EVGA 1000-P2
Cooling
2-240 GTX Black Ice Nemesis rads/ D5 pump-res combo and D5 top before and after rads.
Case
Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 and 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
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AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz
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Red Dragon Perdition
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Built in realtek and Insignia 2.0 soundbar HSB318
Hard Drive
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