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My ram is G.Skill F4-4400C19D-16GTZSW and I had fun getting the heat spreaders off. Paid $500NZD for the pair so I was a bit nervous.
I used the heat gun but the glue didn't seem to take any notice with the G.Skill stuff. Used one of the spatula thingies for opening mobile phones to poke down and slowly scrape the glue from the heat spreader while prising apart with my thumb and forefinger. Got a fair bend on the PCB.
I have the EK Monarch setup with the blue silicone pads which seem ok. I didn't replace the foam from the back of the PCB but I kinda wish I did just in case the PCB transfers the cooling to the smaller components on the other side which don't touch the thermal pads. Used Grizzly on the front plate.
They hit about 35c during stress tests 4400 cl17 1.46v and have never gone above 40c even at 1.55v with a coolant temp of 30c
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Only reason I got my RAM kit I had enough of placing a fan over my dimm's. It was such a eyesore and hassle to have. It didn't produce the heat exchange I wanted either.

Allowed me to with ease push 1.700Volts now. With fan maybe 1.530V was the limit, without fan I needed to stick around 1.490V. My kits don't have internal temperature sensors but I do have a possibility to mount a external one from the motherboard if I feel like it. Haven't gone through the trouble yet. Would need my fan control hub for the extra sensor attachments.

Sadly voltage isn't Rev.E forte. It only helps you try lower tCL settings, most other timings don't need voltage to do their best.
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Nice Build! She's changed since this picture then I take it?
Yeah... I can't leave well enough alone. Here's a candid shot of what it looks like atm. I'm waiting on some more bits and pieces, but this is pretty much the hardware layout.
As much as I liked the inverted layout of the dark base 700 (always been a fan - the V1000 in the background is for wife/kids), the thermals really sucked.
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My ram is G.Skill F4-4400C19D-16GTZSW and I had fun getting the heat spreaders off. Paid $500NZD for the pair so I was a bit nervous.
I used the heat gun but the glue didn't seem to take any notice with the G.Skill stuff. Used one of the spatula thingies for opening mobile phones to poke down and slowly scrape the glue from the heat spreader while prising apart with my thumb and forefinger. Got a fair bend on the PCB.
I have the EK Monarch setup with the blue silicone pads which seem ok. I didn't replace the foam from the back of the PCB but I kinda wish I did just in case the PCB transfers the cooling to the smaller components on the other side which don't touch the thermal pads. Used Grizzly on the front plate.
They hit about 35c during stress tests 4400 cl17 1.46v and have never gone above 40c even at 1.55v with a coolant temp of 30c
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Only reason I got my RAM kit I had enough of placing a fan over my dimm's. It was such a eyesore and hassle to have. It didn't produce the heat exchange I wanted either.

Allowed me to with ease push 1.700Volts now. With fan maybe 1.530V was the limit, without fan I needed to stick around 1.490V. My kits don't have internal temperature sensors but I do have a possibility to mount a external one from the motherboard if I feel like it. Haven't gone through the trouble yet. Would need my fan control hub for the extra sensor attachments.

Sadly voltage isn't Rev.E forte. It only helps you try lower tCL settings, most other timings don't need voltage to do their best.
Yup, same reason why I got my Kit. My B-Die 3200Mhz CL14 Kit gets Toasty when pushing her to 3800Mhz CL16 @ 1.48v. So much so that if I don't keep active cooling with a Fan on them, then when under a heavy Ram Load, she will climb to 50c and Errors Start Popping up instantly. As Long as I can keep the Ram Die Temp to 45c and below, its stable and error free all day. And while I do have side Mounted fans that work great for this purpose, I don't like the noise it produces when they have to crank the speed up to 1600RPM to keep them cool. Hence Why I got the Kit. I also just recently purchased a Crosshair VIII hero, and an Aquaero 6 XT To replace the LT, and I am also going to run my Tubing out of the Back of the case through a PCIE Bracket Passthrough, instead of Out of the Front Through an Open 5.25" Bay. I honestly don't mind the look to bad, it makes me laugh seeing Tubing running out to front of my case and up to the Pump/Rad Station I set up on a Shelf, but the Cable Management that went along with it is pretty abysmal so I figured I would make an attempt to fix it all when I install the Ram Blocks and Mobo probably next weekend. Always fun to have a quarantine project!

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Yeah... I can't leave well enough alone. Here's a candid shot of what it looks like atm. I'm waiting on some more bits and pieces, but this is pretty much the hardware layout.
As much as I liked the inverted layout of the dark base 700 (always been a fan - the V1000 in the background is for wife/kids), the thermals really sucked.
So awesome man! Beautiful build! Glad to see there is a community out there who finds usefulness in watercooling their Ram Sticks still. Everyone says, "It isn't DDR2 anymore, there is no reason to cool your DIMM's", to which I reply, "Your the DIMM Dip S**T!" LOL. No but seriously, there are many of reasons to want to cool your sticks, whether its pushing a further Ram OC, or if its just because you damn well feel like it, so I am glad to join those ranks here in the next week or 2. I will definitely post here about my experience when I finally take the Journey.

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So awesome man! Beautiful build! Glad to see there is a community out there who finds usefulness in watercooling their Ram Sticks still. Everyone says, "It isn't DDR2 anymore, there is no reason to cool your DIMM's", to which I reply, "Your the DIMM Dip S**T!" LOL. No but seriously, there are many of reasons to want to cool your sticks, whether its pushing a further Ram OC, or if its just because you damn well feel like it, so I am glad to join those ranks here in the next week or 2. I will definitely post here about my experience when I finally take the Journey.
Its more or less a hobby for me... and I've got an awesome wife that doesn't mind.

I pretty much fit in the 'because I can' category when it comes to the ram block. I received a defective Bykski rad from FormulaMod and had a credit with them that was ~$10 less than the ram block. I told them just to drop that ram block in my next order and I'd be happy - they obliged (side note: they've got some of the best customer service that I've ever dealt with...). I've got a few things in my current build that the general watercooling public thinks are ridiculous, but I've found quite a bit of enjoyment in tinkering and realizing some of the general claims are completely unfounded.

My most recent was a reddit debate with the 'one D5 pump is enough for any system' crowd. Of course one D5 is not always enough. lol

What are you using to monitor your ram temps with?

As a side note, I realized several weeks ago that a drug addiction would probably be cheaper than this hobby.
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Its more or less a hobby for me... and I've got an awesome wife that doesn't mind.

I pretty much fit in the 'because I can' category when it comes to the ram block. I received a defective Bykski rad from FormulaMod and had a credit with them that was ~$10 less than the ram block. I told them just to drop that ram block in my next order and I'd be happy - they obliged (side note: they've got some of the best customer service that I've ever dealt with...). I've got a few things in my current build that the general watercooling public thinks are ridiculous, but I've found quite a bit of enjoyment in tinkering and realizing some of the general claims are completely unfounded.

My most recent was a reddit debate with the 'one D5 pump is enough for any system' crowd. Of course one D5 is not always enough. lol

What are you using to monitor your ram temps with?

As a side note, I realized several weeks ago that a drug addiction would probably be cheaper than this hobby.
LOL! I had that same realization. I am spending way too much money on this hobby. But I can't help it. I love tinkering. Its what I do for a living, and sometimes those jobs can be a pain because some clients are just d**ks, but when I can do it on my own time, and just relax and play, I love it! Also, I used to, back in the 'just out of college' days, be a legit drug addict. OxyContin. It was bad. And probably because I sold drugs to fund my habit, this is definitely legitimately more expensive. But when you can afford it, and you aren't spending mortgage money or bill money on it, then I don't consider it near as dangerous. That would after all be stupid, what good is a dozen sick Rigs, if you have no home to put them in, or no electricity to power them with? LOL! Also you are lucky to have a wife who understands. My Ex-Fiance definitely did not. And for a good minute she got me to stop playing with my computers so much, and tried to do things together. But ultimately, she just wasn't for me, so we split a little over 2 years now. For the first time since being clean (2009, so 11 years now) I am single and am not dating, and although it sucks to be without a partner to keep you company, I am actually finding it quite liberating. Still, you are a lucky man, I envy you!

On the One Pump is enough note. Yeah, I mean you could probably get by w/ one One D5 in a normal loop without much restriction. But you definitely get better head pressure, a higher flow rate, and best of all peace of mind with redundancy with the 2nd. Personally for any production Rig that needs to be in service 24/7, there are 2 things I would never go without in my Loop. Well 3 Really.

1) 2 D5 Pumps (I actually will mix a D5 with a DDC when Noise isn't an issue which actually gives me awesome results, despite the general belief that this is bad and will make one burn out sooner. I only have experience with this in 3 builds so far, the longest going for almost 2 years now, but still have yet to have an issue).

2) QDC's so that I can quickly and easily pull parts out as necessary without draining the loop.

3) An Aquaero for having a reliable device to plug my sensors, fans, pumps, flow meters, and alarms, and relays to. It makes Automatic shut off in the event of something going wrong super simple, as well as having a second way to remotely turn on a rig when WoL isn't working correctly. There are of course more needs, but those are the 3 that all my builds share, even on builds that look like they are only sporting one pump, there is always a second one hidden in the basement just after the 1st in the loop, especially because I use so many QDC's, I have a lot of restriction to overcome.

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Well, I suppose in going to try my hand at this again.

I really wasn't happy with the aesthetics of the barrowch block I had, which is a big reason why I took it off.

I was browsing the webs last night and found the alphacool x4 on sale, so I ordered it... I mean, it was on sale.

I'll report back when it's installed.
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Well, I suppose in going to try my hand at this again.

I really wasn't happy with the aesthetics of the barrowch block I had, which is a big reason why I took it off.

I was browsing the webs last night and found the alphacool x4 on sale, so I ordered it... I mean, it was on sale.

I'll report back when it's installed.
Sweet! I have the bitspower one, I was so close to getting the Alphacool myself.

I am doing a whole rework with my PC. Going to Install my New Crosshair VIII Hero Mobo, to replace my Crosshair VII Hero, going to install the New Waterblock, I have a new DDC Pump I am adding to my Dual D5 Pump Setup. My DDC is going inside the Case, So that when I need to I can disconnect the external Cooling Station, and run soley off my 360 Rad and DDC Inside the Case.

Then I will be redoing my External Cooling Station. I actually could use some ideas on what to buy for this.

Right now, I have 2 280 Rads that are up on a shelf behind my TV, that I route Tubing out of my case and up to, and one of the Rads have 2 Corsair D5's Mounted to it. Right now (as the Pictures will show below, and yes I know it looks hideous and I have the best cable management in the world, but I needed more cooling and this was the easiest way for me to do it at the time, and it worked well which was all I cared about then) the tubing just runs out of 5.25" Slot that I pulled the Cover off of on my ancient Case from 2012.

So I bought a PCIe Pass Through Bracket, that has an in and out port, that I will be installing, that will allow me to Route the tubing out of the back of the case, and I am setting of a New Cooling Station on an End Table that will be placed to the Right of My PC.

I will now have 1 560 Rad (140x4), 2 280 Rads, and 2 360 Rads. I would like to find a structure to Mount all the Rads to, and am wondering if anyone is familiar with anything on the market that is a frame that you can just mount Rads to, so I can have them all Mounted right side up. I think it will look really nice if done Properly, and the cooling will be insane, I have all these extra Rads, so I figured I would put them into good use.

Anyways, I have everything needed for this project accept for the frame, and a few boxes of fans that are yet to arrive, I am hoping to do this all next weekend, and I am hoping that it will leave my room much more presentable again. Here is what the PC Looks like now.
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I have a PCIE pass through bracket. Bought it for my earlier setup before I got my In Win 303 case as I had my 360 radiator on the table or on the back mounted on a single 120mm fan exhaust.

It's useful but make sure you have it tight and not any gaps when you mount it. It's easy to have them not "flush" and you will get water everywhere. They might not fit all PCI ports, depends on the case cut-outs and other obstructions around there. It only fit at the bottom slot in my older case.
Case compatibility thing needs to be considered. Might not work in the position you want to use it in.

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I've actually tried to keep all of my cooling internal. My office is in my basement and my ceilings are the exposed floor joists from the main floor... Kind of an industrial approach, but as a result, it can get quite dusty (my house was built in 1969).

I do really like your idea of being able to unplug so to speak, your external cooling.

With that being said, if I was going to go external, the only thing that I've seen that I actually like is the Mora setup. I haven't given much thought to them, but I understand they can be quite hard to come by ATM.
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