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post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old 02-13-2020, 07:56 AM
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I WISH like all hell that HWL would make a 40mm version of the GTS (54 is too thick). This way it would have lower restriction than the current model and still fit in a O11-D XL in top and back of side config.

Alphacool makes good radiators and back in the Sandy Bridge days they were the gold standard of performance but I have seen MAJOR issues with Alphacool customer service and blaming customers/other companies to the point they left OCN. Because of these and a few other things I ethically cant buy their stuff.

EK PE and XE series are another good option and they have a clean aesthetic but people in here hate EK and their ports are screwed in. Because of this their have been a few issues of leaks and a few broken port threads that are a concern.

I would love to do HW labs but I would need 2x 360 GTS (along with 1xSR2 and GPU/CPU block) and that is a lot of restriction for a single D5 unless I want to turn it up to 4/5 where a less restrictive loop could be at 3 and quieter.

Why cant they make a GTS2 40mm, same fins, taller find, to reduce restriction? DAMN IT HWLabs get on that!

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Hi,
GTS series looks to be not quite 30mm thick not 54 or 40mm thick

GTX are 54mm thick
GTR are 54.7mm
SR2 are 60mm

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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
GTS series looks to be not quite 30mm thick not 54 or 40mm thick

GTX are 54mm thick
GTR are 54.7mm
SR2 are 60mm
I understand that but at 30mm its 2x restrictive as a waterblock and 3-5x restrictive as other rads. And the 54mm GTX/GTR will not fit above a Mobo or behind the side intake on a O11-D XL.

Side Intake Clearance = Behind the tray in the second chamber has 50mm clearance, 54 would not fit even if you took the filters off. In front 70mm if you are going to put in a bottom 360. (I dont like the look of a bare rad. in the main chamber)

Top Exhaust Clearance = 70mm (75 if you route your wires around the rad past the rear I/O).

Neither with fans will fit a 54mm radiator.

So my only options for the top and side are: 2xGTS (Very Restrictive for a single pump), XSPC EX, Alphacool 45, or EK PE. Of those I dont like the way Alphacool handled customer issues, and the PE is cleaner look and out performed XSPC.

Hence why I WISH Hardware Labs would make the GTS in a 40mm thick version.

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Most people use dual pumps including myself

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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
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Most people use dual pumps including myself [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
Except other than putting it in back where the PSU is and moving the PSU up top and ditching the Hotswap Bays there is not really a got place to put dual pumps. I am even considering getting a dual pump from reservoir that is made for dual loops to run them in series because I really want the HWL. I think they need to make a 40mm version of the GTS.

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Most people use dual pumps including myself
Going slightly off-topic here, but how would a dual-pump setup work? Typically I see most builds having a single pump/res combo. Would you then need two pump/res combos? Or only one, with a second pump either in front or after the pump/res combo?

At this point I'm still leaning towards going for mostly Optimus PC stuff, including their pump/res combo. But since I own an Aquaero, I also like the idea of going for a D5 Next pump, as that will plug nicely into the Aquasuite software giving me more detailed info other than RPM when just connecting it to a PWM fan header.

I've thought about just getting the Optimus PC reservoir with a D5 Next pump, but then aesthetically it won't look as pleasing as the D5 Next pump would stick out from under it (and not even sure it would all fit together?).

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Going slightly off-topic here, but how would a dual-pump setup work? Typically I see most builds having a single pump/res combo. Would you then need two pump/res combos? Or only one, with a second pump either in front or after the pump/res combo?

At this point I'm still leaning towards going for mostly Optimus PC stuff, including their pump/res combo. But since I own an Aquaero, I also like the idea of going for a D5 Next pump, as that will plug nicely into the Aquasuite software giving me more detailed info other than RPM when just connecting it to a PWM fan header.

I've thought about just getting the Optimus PC reservoir with a D5 Next pump, but then aesthetically it won't look as pleasing as the D5 Next pump would stick out from under it (and not even sure it would all fit together?).
Different tops generally combine them into one serial pump. You could also run two single pumps into each other in serial and get double the head. Running two pumps in Parallel and you get double the flow.
Head is more important then flow since you only need 1GPM flow, more head means you can get a more restrictive loop

Optimus is coming out with a dual pump/res combo, I'll keep pestering them until they do.

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Quote: Originally Posted by sakete View Post
Going slightly off-topic here, but how would a dual-pump setup work? Typically I see most builds having a single pump/res combo. Would you then need two pump/res combos? Or only one, with a second pump either in front or after the pump/res combo?

At this point I'm still leaning towards going for mostly Optimus PC stuff, including their pump/res combo. But since I own an Aquaero, I also like the idea of going for a D5 Next pump, as that will plug nicely into the Aquasuite software giving me more detailed info other than RPM when just connecting it to a PWM fan header.

I've thought about just getting the Optimus PC reservoir with a D5 Next pump, but then aesthetically it won't look as pleasing as the D5 Next pump would stick out from under it (and not even sure it would all fit together?).
Different tops generally combine them into one serial pump. You could also run two single pumps into each other in serial and get double the head. Running two pumps in Parallel and you get double the flow.
Head is more important then flow since you only need 1GPM flow, more head means you can get a more restrictive loop

Optimus is coming out with a dual pump/res combo, I'll keep pestering them until they do.
I wish there were more dual serial pump options.

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I wish there were more dual serial pump options.
Not really OT because it is Alphacool rads lol. EK dual serial.
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Using alphacool 60mm 420+280 Rads. Easily available, respectable performance. Best Rads are HWL. For me, Alphacool is good enough, no complaints. I usually used some clear coolant or distilled water to flush over a sink.

420 Alphacool Rad with Singularity Computers 240mm res and dual ekwb serial D5s with Corsair LL140s in push pull.

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