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post #11 of 435 (permalink) Old 03-02-2020, 02:18 AM
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If the price is too high for your taste, there is the Full Nickel, all-metal Velocity which is only 1.4°C worse than the Signature and costs 100 bucks less, but I don't see anyone mentioning that relation. Going further, the Classic Supremacy block had the same performance related to the V2 and costs 140 bucks less, yet no one is mentioning that.

The only thing important, as it seems, is that a water block with more options, a unique design, with better performance, way better flow rates, is more expensive than the second-placed in performance, which has [B]just two[B] material version available, and has a much worse flow ratio. If you take all of this into account, doesn't it seem fair that the Magnitude is more expensive? I mean no one is forcing you to buy it. By the logic I have seen here the Classic Supremacy block is the best pick, which offers 307% more Performance per Dollar related to the V2.

So my question is. What is important to you?
The price?
The performance?
The design?
Material choices and customization?
Flow rates?
Country of origin?
Fancy marketing words like "space-grade" or "cast acrylic"?

It seems to me that the three available EK products cover each category, but still, I see a lot of flaming.
I have always respected the competition that was innovative enough to come up with their own products and own design
and had a unique look. The market is big enough to have competition and to push the boundaries so my primary role here is not to diss the competition.

I'm just trying to use some common sense here and to get some real feedback, other than "EK is garbage" so that EK can work on their upcoming products.
I really hope that we can avoid distasteful and rude comments, and have a healthy conversation and get insight on whats is important for members of this forum.
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Well I have a lot of ek parts so ek hardly sucks lol
Started out with 2 ek 280 performance kits

Velocity well I never saw the need seeing I got a couple copper plexi heatkiller 4 pro instead
They did better than old ek evo's but they cost nearly 100.us seeing watercool doesn't stock a copper plexi "special order" and shipping from the EU is 30 euros period.

So 119.00 for a optimus foundation isn't all that much more and is outright better performer so far

256.19 for a 2066 copper acetal isn't going to happen for just for a peek or testing too steep
Velocity there's no sense in trying it it's no better than HK 4 pro that I've noticed.

Just on the TPU thermal performance page it shows velocity at 41.05c and HK 4 pro is rated at 40.50
Testing method aside which many are saying the method is not near cpu stressful enough and nobody goes by temp averages = max temps only matter at high clocks.

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Any review Magnitude block with ryzen 3000? why only intel

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Any review Magnitude block with ryzen 3000? why only intel
Hi,
TechPowerUp has a very limited budget obviously
Last i read he would be waiting for someone to send him a board/ chip and memory

Here's his response just about more max core temp data lol he has to have it seeing his averages rely on a min max to get an average still nothing offered.
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Quote: Originally Posted by knightriot View Post
Any review Magnitude block with ryzen 3000? why only intel
Ah, there I found "my official" account, the Steamroller83 is my old one.
So, we were also not happy with the 9900K because our internal testing showed the least performance improvements on the 115x socket. The 20xx platform had the biggest improvements,
and the offset jet insert in the AM4 is also helping.
Alex from Bit-Tech is setting up his own setup and will be doing a roundup of CPU blocks, but there is no precise date on when that will be.
Unfortunately, XtremeRigs only has a Threadripper setup at the moment, so we are open to any suggestions for AM4 and 20xx reviews.
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Hi,
3950x's are dropping nicely in price now at 700.us local micro center
Getting difficult not to jump on one but if 2066 10 series ever actually becomes available amd 3k might drop some more or 10...x series might drop in price.

Little 9940x of mine is doing pretty good but I do have another x299 board doing nothing.

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Quote: Originally Posted by AtilaEKWB View Post
Ah, there I found "my official" account, the Steamroller83 is my old one.
So, we were also not happy with the 9900K because our internal testing showed the least performance improvements on the 115x socket. The 20xx platform had the biggest improvements,
and the offset jet insert in the AM4 is also helping.
Alex from Bit-Tech is setting up his own setup and will be doing a roundup of CPU blocks, but there is no precise date on when that will be.
Unfortunately, XtremeRigs only has a Threadripper setup at the moment, so we are open to any suggestions for AM4 and 20xx reviews.
i do really want to see them to throw a 500w load out of the socket sustained that be funny to watch XD

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i do really want to see them to throw a 500w load out of the socket sustained that be funny to watch XD
Hi,
Ditto
For some reason someone/ testers always find a scientific way to cloud results from what oc'ers really want to see. max core temps against another block this seems way to simplistic

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Hi,
Ditto
For some reason someone/ testers always find a scientific way to cloud results from what oc'ers really want to see. max core temps against another block this seems way to simplistic
they dont even need to do the wathever x cpu required time to do the whole suit on blender benchmark classroom and pavillion run would be enough to get some decent numbers XD
or loop classroom for a couple of runs to get a baseline pavilionn would be the hardest outside p95 with avx.. more heavy and realistic test out of them all...

they can also get a consistent load out of p95 without abusing the cpu with a non avx fft of 28 or 2 digits ffts and try to get the constant "wattage" package load at the desired voltage.. what matter here is the wattage usage out of the socket perse to stress the block cooling performane.....

at this point i feel im giving free assistance to "mainstream" reviewers


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Wow, they want $269 for the full nickel version? Since when did CPU waterblocks get this expensive? The massive sTRX40 Velocity full nickel block was only like $130.

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