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[Official] EK Magnitude Water Block Information and Discussion thread



Magnitude water block info
This block was engineered from the ground up, no components were reused. Every piece of EK's Magnitude CPU water block is CNC machined. The mounting mechanism is a 3D Aluminum frame that hides the screws and makes them flush with the surface of the mounting frame. For the design, it won a prestigious iF design award (more info here: https://ifworlddesignguide.com/entry...8-ek-magnitude)
D-RGB models have 30 individually addressable LEDs on a dense strip.
The copper cold plate uses 0.40mm wide microchannels and 0.26mm thick microfins to maximize the thermal transfer with minimal flow restriction. Overall it has about 50% larger heat transfer area while having a smaller footprint than previous generation EK water blocks.

At this early stage, it is currently confirmed that it's the top performer on 115X platform - being tested by TechPowerUp.


Official product page: https://www.ekwb.com/custom-loop/qua...ude-cpu-block/

Breakdown of the water block components video:

Magnitude water block socket options


Magnitude has distinct 115X, 20XX and AM4 socket options.
The 115X and 20XX differ in the curvature of the cold plate and mounting pressure, while the AM4 shares the same cold plate design with the 20XX, the insert is completely different as it directs the flow to the chiplets that are offset, unlike the Intel designs where the die is centered. The blocks were separated on a per-socket basis to make sure internal geometry and mounting pressure could be specialized for each socket to ensure maximum performance.

Magnitude water block aesthetic options


Several options are available with acetal, plexi or full metal tops. Base plate has nickel and copper options, while the insert is nickel-plated brass or bare brass.
The solid-top ones with D-RGB shine outward, while the Plexi ones shine inwards.

Magnitude water block accent frames


Magnitude can be customized with colored accent rings that match the EK-Torque fitting accent rings. They are either anodized aluminum for most color options, while the nickel one is made of nickel-plated brass.

How to use Magnitude with Rockit IHS/lapped IHS or bare-die
Magnitude cold plate comes curved, so it is not performing optimally with these cooling choices. EK makes separate flat cold plates for this kind of cooling. It also comes with a specific 0.5 thickness jet plate which is made exclusively for this cold plate.


Magnitude reviews and videos

115X performance review from TPU: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/e...u-water-block/

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Sure made Optimus offerings look like a value

Even the foundation copper plexi beat heatkiller 4 pro copper plexi at 4.5 through 4.8 pretty easily and at only 119.us

https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...l#post28261118

https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...l#post28347136

At 256.us for a copper acetal though way out of my testing range.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Sure made Optimus offerings look like a value

Even the foundation copper plexi beat heatkiller 4 pro copper plexi at 4.5 through 4.8 pretty easily and at only 119.us

https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...l#post28261118

https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...l#post28347136

At 256.us for a copper acetal though way out of my testing range.
Yeah, the 0.1C better is cute and all....but it really takes on a different look when you bother to include this:

Quote:


We must note right away that aesthetics and build quality do not necessarily translate directly here, especially with intricate metal tops, RGB lighting, and integrated displays that add to the cost but are not quantifiable as a performance metric. This is especially the case here with all the various different custom parts in the EK-Quantum Magnitude, yet this full nickel variant occupying the current worst spot in the chart is not a good sign, especially when EK's own previously released CPU block currently offers the best value for money.

Yeah....the little girl hentai avatar is really creeping me out....
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weird how we're all of a sudden measuring PSI instead of flow? does techpowerup go into how they get that metric? i assume it can only mean they're running an AC MIPS device? if so, then give us the full read out you dorks.

either way, congrats to EK for finally realizing their custom segment was suffering.

still weird to see a large european shop not be able to compete with their competition on price.

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maybe they're just catching onto the modern tech trend of having a stupidly high MSRP, but always having it on sale for 15-25% less "deals on deals on deals on deals!"

people are flipping stupid, and EK has spent the last 3-4 years trying to tap into that market via their AIO game.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post
Yeah, the 0.1C better is cute and all....but it really takes on a different look when you bother to include this:
Hi,
Thought the same about optimus blocks too mostly the SigV2 seeing it was nearly 200.us
But after messing with both foundation and SigV2 they do scale very well as clocks go up and way better than HK 4 pro does so if the new ek offerings do the same it might be worth the extra costs to someone

I'm not a fan of TPU testing methods but at least they tested the 1151 block only
So there is still an untested 2066 ek block which may or may not do the same or better than optimus blocks ?

I'm in chat with the op
My testing may not be scientific enough for a ek sample though sure would be nice to see what this block can actually do and is adjustable where as optimus blocks aren't.

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weird how we're all of a sudden measuring PSI instead of flow? does techpowerup go into how they get that metric? i assume it can only mean they're running an AC MIPS device? if so, then give us the full read out you dorks.

either way, congrats to EK for finally realizing their custom segment was suffering.

still weird to see a large european shop not be able to compete with their competition on price.
So you've never read the testing methodology? That has been basically standard for a decade?

A dwyer 490 that has been used by Martin, Stren, Fastfate, VSG etc etc

Some things make more sense now.


Quote: Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post
Yeah, the 0.1C better is cute and all....but it really takes on a different look when you bother to include this:
At least they didn't claim it would 5 or 8 or 10C better.

Its 0.1 at 1GPM. You won't be getting 1 GPM of flow with a couple of optimus blocks in the system thats for sure.
That's why pressure drop matters. Testing at the same flow rate is important for consistency but in real loops the flows will not be the same.

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At least they didn't claim it would 5 or 8 or 10C better.

Its 0.1 at 1GPM. You won't be getting 1 GPM of flow with a couple of optimus blocks in the system thats for sure.
That's why pressure drop matters. Testing at the same flow rate is important for consistency but in real loops the flows will not be the same.
Hi,
I've shown just the optimus foundation is 4c better just at 4.5 and 7c better at 4.8 than heatkiller 4 pro clock for clock being equal but if images are too tough for you to read then just go by the highlighted lowest core temperature and the Max core temperature with the red square around it and do simple math.

Flow is an easy fix by just flush trimming off the excess o-ring where the cooling fin impressions are
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