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Help me build my first custom loop

Finally want to liquid cool my wallmounted Core P5 rig. I really need help, I'm losing my marbles looking at all the different options.

-I want CPU and GPU in the loop. An i7-6700k and an ASUS Strix RX 5700XT. I intend to overclock both.
-I have room for a quad rad but would prefer to go with a triple, for compatibility with future rig plans.
-Quiet operation is very important, as it is an open-air chassis and I use an open-back headset.

Budget is fairly flexible but I don't want to go crazy.

I am having trouble deciding on components and want to make sure it is designed properly for easy filling/draining etc. I'm unsure which brands to go with and some of their product lines are obscure.
Planning to use pump from Thermaltake for mounting compatibility with case.

So far I'm thinking (will update as it goes):


Pump: Pacific PR22-D5 w/ Silent Kit Reservoir/Pump Combo (https://www.thermaltake.com/pacific-...ump-combo.html)
Rad: Hardware Labs Black Ice SR2 MP (http://hardwarelabs.com/blackice/sr2/360-mp/)
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Tubing: PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Flexible Tubing - 3/8in.ID x 5/8in.OD - Retail Bundle (10ft pack) - Crystal Clear (https://www.primochill.com/products/...nt=29219308176)
Fittings/Connectors: EK Torque Series
Coolant: Distilled Water w/ Mayhems Inhibitor+ & Biocide+ (https://www.mayhems.net/collections/algaecides)
Dye: Mayhems Non Stain Pink / Red Dye 15ml (https://www.mayhems.net/collections/...k-red-dye-15ml)
Fans: 3 x Corsair ML120 Pro LED, Red (Will switch for Noctua NF-F12 PWM if needed)


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For soft tubing get the PrimoChill PRIMOFLEX Advanced LRT. Used those for 6 years. Disconnected and cleaned and I kept them for another potential loop. Never had a problem with fading or plasticizer issues.

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For soft tubing get the PrimoChill PRIMOFLEX Advanced LRT. Used those for 6 years. Disconnected and cleaned and I kept them for another potential loop. Never had a problem with fading or plasticizer issues.
Thanks! Added it to the list, seems like a great option. Will likely have to order it straight from them, seems much cheaper than what other retailers are selling it for.

Noticed they also sell some products for "pre-treating" a loop or for cleaning out a rad. From what I understand, I should be cleaning my rad out (any maybe other parts??) before putting it in the loop. Are these products good to use for that? Should I just use distilled water?

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To address some of your uncertainty, I have a HWLabs Black Ice GTX 360 and it's been great. I have zero complaints.

As for fittings, Bitspower is the creme de la creme. If you can't swing it that's totally fine, I used traditional barbs on my first loop for about 11 years and never had a single issue.

To clean your rad, just add some white vinegar to some distilled water and flush it through the rad a few times. All you're really trying to do is get any gunk that was introduced from manufacturing or sitting on a shelf out.

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If I remember correctly, my tubes came with a cleaning kit that I never used.

Just use tap water (boil in a tea kettle) to clean all the water components including flushing the rads and then once everything is clean finish with distilled water (room temp).

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Pump: Pacific PR22-D5 w/ Silent Kit Reservoir/Pump Combo (https://www.thermaltake.com/pacific-...ump-combo.html) Should I go with DDC instead??
Rad: Hardware Labs? 120x360 (No idea which, confusing product lines)
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Tubing: PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Flexible Tubing - 3/8in.ID x 5/8in.OD - Retail Bundle (10ft pack) - Crystal Clear (https://www.primochill.com/products/...nt=29219308176)
Fittings/Connectors: ?????? EK? Bitspower? Other?
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A couple of things of note....

1. I feel like the Tt res/pump had leakage issues, but I don't recall definitively. Either way, unless you are getting some ridiculous price on it, I would steer clear of any Tt watercooling components as the quality is below par.
2. Just say no to Cryofuel, there are plenty of posts in this forum of gunked up systems due to it. If you must have red, use Mayhems. Even if you don't need red, use Mayhems coolant.
3. BitsPower fittings are top of the line, and I wouldn't use anything else for rotaries. If you want to save a few dollars, go with BP rotaries where needed and use Barrow compression fittings as they are good quality and closely match the look of the BP.

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If I remember correctly, my tubes came with a cleaning kit that I never used.

Just use tap water (boil in a tea kettle) to clean all the water components including flushing the rads and then once everything is clean finish with distilled water (room temp).
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Quote: Originally Posted by grmnasasin0227 View Post
To address some of your uncertainty, I have a HWLabs Black Ice GTX 360 and it's been great. I have zero complaints.

As for fittings, Bitspower is the creme de la creme. If you can't swing it that's totally fine, I used traditional barbs on my first loop for about 11 years and never had a single issue.

To clean your rad, just add some white vinegar to some distilled water and flush it through the rad a few times. All you're really trying to do is get any gunk that was introduced from manufacturing or sitting on a shelf out.
I'm definitely wanting to go with compression fittings, seem like the best option. When I look at Bitspower's line they have a bunch of non-descriptive versions of their fittings. I have no idea what the regular vs CC2 vs CC3 means?

I've narrowed it down to 3 rads from HWLabs that seem like a good fit. The Nemesis GTR360, Nemesis GTX360, and the Black Ice SR2 360 MP. From what I understand, the Nemesis line is just the latest version of the older Black Ice?

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A couple of things of note....

1. I feel like the Tt res/pump had leakage issues, but I don't recall definitively. Either way, unless you are getting some ridiculous price on it, I would steer clear of any Tt watercooling components as the quality is below par.
2. Just say no to Cryofuel, there are plenty of posts in this forum of gunked up systems due to it. If you must have red, use Mayhems. Even if you don't need red, use Mayhems coolant.
3. BitsPower fittings are top of the line, and I wouldn't use anything else for rotaries. If you want to save a few dollars, go with BP rotaries where needed and use Barrow compression fittings as they are good quality and closely match the look of the BP.
Thanks for the info!

I've read that the first version of that pump/res had a leakage issue with the res cracking but that it was addressed shortly after release. From what I understand, by and large a D5 is a D5 regardless who it's from, it's mostly just a different res and mounting? I know my case, the Core P5, can't use other pumps without drilling because of the mounting setup. But the case is compatible with the Tt pumps.

I've heard the cryofuel can stain but I haven't heard it causing gunking. Either way, I'll be checking out Mayhems, thanks!

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I've narrowed it down to 3 rads from HWLabs that seem like a good fit. The Nemesis GTR360, Nemesis GTX360, and the Black Ice SR2 360 MP. From what I understand, the Nemesis line is just the latest version of the older Black Ice?
The Nemesis line is a newer line, but not a direct replacement for the older Black Ice line. The rads you list have some very distinct differences, and are all aimed at a different type of user. The SR2 is aimed at the low noise user, and it is an absolute beast at low noise levels. The GTX has less than stellar performance at very low noise levels, but is great with medium~high fans speeds. The GTR is the best all out performer....but your PC needs to sound like a vacuum cleaner to get that performance. You can get a great overview of the SR2 and GTX performance (GTR was not released at the time of these tests) here - https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/1...-round-2015/5/ . Some GTR vs GTX info is here - http://thermalbench.com/2016/11/22/h...80-radiator/5/

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The Nemesis line is a newer line, but not a direct replacement for the older Black Ice line. The rads you list have some very distinct differences, and are all aimed at a different type of user. The SR2 is aimed at the low noise user, and it is an absolute beast at low noise levels. The GTX has less than stellar performance at very low noise levels, but is great with medium~high fans speeds. The GTR is the best all out performer....but your PC needs to sound like a vacuum cleaner to get that performance. You can get a great overview of the SR2 and GTX performance (GTR was not released at the time of these tests) here - https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/1...-round-2015/5/ . Some GTR vs GTX info is here - http://thermalbench.com/2016/11/22/h...80-radiator/5/
Thanks, that's very helpful. I'm definitely crossing the GTR off the list. So I've got to decide between the GTX or SR2. I want the system to be very quiet but I also don't want to sacrifice OC headroom or have crappy temps.

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