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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 05-13-2020, 01:08 PM - Thread Starter
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Tweaking the loop.

So I have currently a 360 GTS, 480 GTS, a 360 L series, Phanteks GPU block and Optimus CPU block. All a recipe of restriction. At 100% pump speed I'm moving 140 l/hr. I'm fairly certain it's my loop design and radiators. I have no intention of changing the front and top radiators because these were already difficult to get installed into my Phanteks 719. I have to replace a thermal sensor that's faulty so at the same time I'm thinking about tweaking the loop a bit. In the future I plan to change my bottom rad from the L series to an Alphacool 45 or 60mm thick rad.



Here's what I'm thinking of doing. First from the pump to the first rad. I currently have a dual radial 90 going into a 90 tube, into a T block. I think if i can do a setup a bit more gradual then the water flow wouldn't slam into the T block 90 before continuing on. So I did a mock up of what I'm thinking of doing. I can use the 2 dual rotary 90s I have to have a much more gradual curve, I then link it back to the T block which is rotated 90 degrees inward into the case. That should give a much straighter shot into the first radiator. Obviously the mock up isn't the correct length.



As for further tweaks I'm going to ditch the dual 90s and extension I have in place for the GPU inlet and just bend another pipe and hope I don't screw it up. My hope is I can free up some more flow and perhaps not have to get a different bottom radiator, although that may still happen.





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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old 05-13-2020, 04:17 PM
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Given the components, I would really consider a second pump. Something physically small like a Swiftech MCP50X would get the flow rate up considerably.

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I'd get a multiport rad for the bottom so at least you can drain stsyem properly instead of the T fitting drain thing that will do nothing but kill flow.

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I'm looking into that now. I'm trying to find a radiator that has the multiports on one end and a a drain port on the opposite side. I have found this with an Alphacool 14174 NexXxoS UT60 but I keep hearing they're not that great. However I may not have a choice due to width restrictions, 125mm or less.



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I'd get a multiport rad for the bottom so at least you can drain stsyem properly instead of the T fitting drain thing that will do nothing but kill flow.
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The L series radiator and optimus block are you're most restricting parts. But 140lph is not that bad. I'm using 2x GTS rads and I achieve about 215lph. I tried adding a second pump and got 306lph, but it didn't help my temps. The component to water delta stayed the same, and the ambient to water delta went up by 1°C because of the extra heat of the second pump. So in the end, my CPU and GPU went also up by 1°C because of the second pump.

I don't think there is a lot to gain tempwise by adding a second pump or changing 1 radiator. You'll maybe get 0.1gpm extra flow, which will result in 0.3°C better temps. But there is nothing wrong with experimenting if you have some spare to money to get a different rad and extra pump :-)

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My L series rad is coming out.
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I'm in agreement with Thrash here. I have to believe that T off of the pump outlet is killing you. The 2 90 degree fittings beneath the GPU are hurting as well.

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Quote: Originally Posted by RoivonPC View Post
I'm looking into that now. I'm trying to find a radiator that has the multiports on one end and a a drain port on the opposite side. I have found this with an Alphacool 14174 NexXxoS UT60 but I keep hearing they're not that great. However I may not have a choice due to width restrictions, 125mm or less.
If you are going to buy a new rad, consider an X-Flow to replace the top, would eliminate a tube run with a 90 degree fitting.

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Concur, all those 90s and and T joints will kill your flow. I have one 90 in my loop (no other choice), and one T (but used correctly, where the drain is off to the side, and the main flow goes straight), with 2 pumps, one running at 4000rpm, the other at 3000rpm, and I get about 160LPH. Granted, I'm using filter in my loop that's apparently highly restrictive, I might get a couple of Y joints in my loop and a couple more valves so I can bypass it during normal use, and turn it on whenever I'm running Blitz 2 through my loop when cleaning. Don't really need a filter in your loop all the time.

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