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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 05-19-2020, 03:06 AM - Thread Starter
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Using AIO pump for 2 radiators.

Hello, the main thing i am trying to find out here if specific pump could handle 2 radiators. I have MASTERLIQUID LITE 240 and another old AIO that does have 120mm radiator, what i am considering is using both 240mm and 120mm radiators in same loop, but i am unsure if that pump can handle it. This aside i do have experience with refilling AIO multiple times and generally filling the loop shouldn't be an issue. I have used distilled water and antifreeze mix before and it seemed to work better than original liquid in these AIOs ( some information relating to the topic - https://www.monarchchemicals.co.uk/I...-in-antifreeze ).
The AIO that i have right now is enough to keep this old x5680 within proper working temperatures, but lately i started doing more testing and overclocking, and started hearing weird pump noises, lack of liquid noise despite the fact that i bought this AIO not that long ago. I am not surprised as this CPU can get pretty toasty if pushed to run high clocks. What i believe happened here is "Liquid Permeation", lets just say liquid magically disappears.

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Generally, no. Unless the AIO is specifically meant to be customized in the future, you should not take apart an AIO. I would not expect a pump meant to handle 240mm worth of rad to be able to accommodate being turned into a 360mm. Will it circulate coolant, probably. Will it circulate coolant at a sufficient enough rate to provide any benefit in coolant temps, probably not.

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Generally, no. Unless the AIO is specifically meant to be customized in the future, you should not take apart an AIO. I would not expect a pump meant to handle 240mm worth of rad to be able to accommodate being turned into a 360mm. Will it circulate coolant, probably. Will it circulate coolant at a sufficient enough rate to provide any benefit in coolant temps, probably not.

Pretty sure they actually use the same pump for 360mm AIO, taking AIO apart and filling it wouldn't be an issue for me, not even finding good size tubing nor putting it on, etc. I just can't find enough information on this specific pump only with AIO name, so i thought maybe there is someone more knowledgeable than me in this subject and might give me some information about this. If it is the same pump that is used with 360mm radiator then it might be fine, if it is weaker however then it likely would be too weak to give me desired results in lowering temperature.
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Pretty sure they actually use the same pump for 360mm AIO, taking AIO apart and filling it wouldn't be an issue for me, not even finding good size tubing nor putting it on, etc. I just can't find enough information on this specific pump only with AIO name, so i thought maybe there is someone more knowledgeable than me in this subject and might give me some information about this. If it is the same pump that is used with 360mm radiator then it might be fine, if it is weaker however then it likely would be too weak to give me desired results in lowering temperature.
That may be true, you have to account the addition of tube runs and 90 degree bends that will be added to the 240mm by adding a separate 120mm rad. Again, not saying it wouldn't work, but I doubt the gains would be substantial enough to warrant doing so. If you are comfortable taking AIO's apart and if you have the means, you should test it and make up your own mind. IMO it would not be worth the time or imagined gains.

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Flow meter wouldn't be worth it, as for taking it apart, i would want to refill it anyway. Also tubes with this AIO are pretty bad and giving me weird bends already, so might as well replace them. This 240mm rad is used in front pulling air in, only space i have for 120mm one is at back, to push air out. Tubes wouldn't bend that much this way, although it wouldn't look very aesthetic. Just depends on cooling performance if its worth it or not.
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Flow meter wouldn't be worth it, as for taking it apart, i would want to refill it anyway. Also tubes with this AIO are pretty bad and giving me weird bends already, so might as well replace them. This 240mm rad is used in front pulling air in, only space i have for 120mm one is at back, to push air out. Tubes wouldn't bend that much this way, although it wouldn't look very aesthetic. Just depends on cooling performance if its worth it or not.
Just remember, every G1/4 thread IS a 90 degree turn when it comes to rads. It is a good proposed tube run, looks as clean as you can get. Question remains, if cooling is not very beneficial, can you return the setup back to just a 240mm AIO config? If so, go for it. What would be the cost of everything you would need to make the conversion happen?

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The thing is that both AIOs are not meant to be taken apart, nor upgraded anyhow, in other words instead of having fittings radiators only have short aluminum tubes sticking out. Fitting tubes on them shouldn't be too hard, although i don't have tubes yet, shouldn't cost more than 10$ for simple see through tubes. Yes it wouldn't be that hard to go back to single 240mm rad and to secure tubes i would use something like this - https://www.amazon.com/Precision-Bra...9897345&sr=8-7.
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The thing is that both AIOs are not meant to be taken apart, nor upgraded anyhow, in other words instead of having fittings radiators only have short aluminum tubes sticking out. Fitting tubes on them shouldn't be too hard, although i don't have tubes yet, shouldn't cost more than 10$ for simple see through tubes. Yes it wouldn't be that hard to go back to single 240mm rad and to secure tubes i would use something like this - https://www.amazon.com/Precision-Bra...9897345&sr=8-7.
I get that they are barbs, but the principal is the same, you are adding restriction by placing a second rad in that loop, more restriction than the 360mm variant of that AIO would have on its own. It may cool the same, but I guarantee you will have a reduced flow rate, could be minuscule, but will still be there.

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Yes, it fully depends on how capable is the pump itself. Sadly i can't find any information on pump other than picture below.
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