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Upgrade from soft tubing to hardline/rigid tubing

I'm thinking of upgrading my first watercooling loop from using Mayhems ultra clear tubing to either PETG or Acrylic tubing.

Since PETG is easier to handle I think I would first go with that, unless you guys have anything to convince me otherwise.

For the tubings and fittings brand though, can you guys recommend Barrow? I use all Barrow fittings in my current loop and I've had no leaks for almost 2 years now.

Also, I'm currently using Mayhems Pastel Green. If I was to switch to a clear liquid or at least non-Pastel (clear+dye) coolant, which betwern the XT1 or X1 is the best one to use?
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I'm thinking of upgrading my first watercooling loop from using Mayhems ultra clear tubing to either PETG or Acrylic tubing.

Since PETG is easier to handle I think I would first go with that, unless you guys have anything to convince me otherwise.

For the tubings and fittings brand though, can you guys recommend Barrow? I use all Barrow fittings in my current loop and I've had no leaks for almost 2 years now.

Also, I'm currently using Mayhems Pastel Green. If I was to switch to a clear liquid or at least non-Pastel (clear+dye) coolant, which betwern the XT1 or X1 is the best one to use?
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Alright, so starting out, everything I recommend is from personal experience. The barrow fittings would be fine, but I prefer this brand of Bykski https://www.amazon.com/Bykski-Anti-O...2089751&sr=8-8 The reason I prefer these is due to the massive anti-slip O ring. It allows for non-perfect tube runs to be leak free and offers a lot of play if your measurements are a tad off compared to a traditional O-ring. I HIGHLY recommend these, they have never leaked on me and you won't regret it, the build quality is great. As far as rotaries, go with BP fittings for your hard and dual/triple rotaries. I am pretty sure that Barrowch and Bykski are the same manufacturer sold under 2 brands to appear as competition, they are almost identical.

I would go for the X1 clear or This from ModmyMods. https://modmymods.com/modmymods-modw...-mod-0275.html they are both very similar in quality and the mods is cheaper.

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Alright, so starting out, everything I recommend is from personal experience. The barrow fittings would be fine, but I prefer this brand of Bykski https://www.amazon.com/Bykski-Anti-O...2089751&sr=8-8 The reason I prefer these is due to the massive anti-slip O ring. It allows for non-perfect tube runs to be leak free and offers a lot of play if your measurements are a tad off compared to a traditional O-ring. I HIGHLY recommend these, they have never leaked on me and you won't regret it, the build quality is great. As far as rotaries, go with BP fittings for your hard and dual/triple rotaries. I am pretty sure that Barrowch and Bykski are the same manufacturer sold under 2 brands to appear as competition, they are almost identical.



I would go for the X1 clear or This from ModmyMods. https://modmymods.com/modmymods-modw...-mod-0275.html they are both very similar in quality and the mods is cheaper.
I see. What did you mean by "non-perfect runs"? I'm assuming I would be able to re-use any male-female, male-male,or female-female rotaries that I have, right? If Bykski and Barrow are the same, does that mean the Barrow fittings also have massive o-rings?

How about fur tubing brands? Is Barrow a good recommendation?

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I see. What did you mean by "non-perfect runs"? I'm assuming I would be able to re-use any male-female, male-male,or female-female rotaries that I have, right? If Bykski and Barrow are the same, does that mean the Barrow fittings also have massive o-rings?

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A non-perfect run means that the tube does not sit perfectly in the fitting pressed against the hole. Lets say the tube is 1mm short, it would help make sure no fluid escaped the sides. Yes, you are correct, you can reuse any fittings you have that accept G1/4 threads. I would look to see, but last I checked only the Bykski variant offered the anti-off o-rings. You will first need to decide on a size, most common are 10mm ID/ 12mm OD or 12mm ID / 16mm OD.

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Barrow does brand the EXACT same large rings, can be found here, just in a 14mm OD variant. https://www.formulamod.com/barrow-tf...-p1938145.html

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A non-perfect run means that the tube does not sit perfectly in the fitting pressed against the hole. Lets say the tube is 1mm short, it would help make sure no fluid escaped the sides. Yes, you are correct, you can reuse any fittings you have that accept G1/4 threads. I would look to see, but last I checked only the Bykski variant offered the anti-off o-rings. You will first need to decide on a size, most common are 10mm ID/ 12mm OD or 12mm ID / 16mm OD.
Ok. That kinda scares me out but I guess that'd be part of the process. Is hardline tubing more prone to leaking compared to soft tubing because of the fact that it doesn't use compression fittings? Is the size a personal preference or does it have any effect on anything?

How about for tubing brand, is Barrow a good recommendation?

And do you have experience in handling acrylic? I'm still not settled with the PETG vs Acrylic debate as I heard Acrylic is aesthetically more pleasing.

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Barrow does brand the EXACT same large rings, can be found here, just in a 14mm OD variant. https://www.formulamod.com/barrow-tf...-p1938145.html
Nice, good to know they have those too. I got all my fittings from FormulaMod so I know they're good.

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Ok. That kinda scares me out but I guess that'd be part of the process. Is hardline tubing more prone to leaking compared to soft tubing because of the fact that it doesn't use compression fittings? Is the size a personal preference or does it have any effect on anything?

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IMO, Hard tubing is hard tubing is hard tubing. I have used Barrow, BP, EK, you name it, all the same to me. My experience in handling acrylic was bad and led me to give it up for ease of use with PETG. Honestly, the difference to me is they are both hard and acrylic is HARDER to manipulate. Aesthetically, they appear the same to me. A white or black colored acrylic on the other hand might be better as it would be less opaque, errr, not opaque at all.

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Hard line tubing does use compression fittings, what I linked IS a compression fitting and seriously, they are strong, they take something like 15KG of force to break the seal that massive o-ring has, I trust them over standard o-ring fittings any day of the week.

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