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Need help with WC info mainly input on a build I am starting.

Hi,

As the title says, I am about to start a build and I am watercooling. My question is should I use Ek or Corsair? I am scared of what I have seen about the pressure and leaking of Corsair GPU waterblock. My spec are follow:

10900k (or 3900x or 3950x, haven't desided for exactly which one yet)
asus rog Maximus XII extreme or Formula (still not sure)
Asus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC
Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Sabrent Rocket 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME x2
Seagate BarraCuda 120 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive x2

And I am trying to decide do i wc just cpu or both, if I do both do I do more then a 360 rad? I am using the ASUS ROG Strix Helios GX601 with a Bykski Distro Plate - Asus Rog Strix Helios

thank you for your time help and info.

Future Build Coming up, will update this when I get it done.
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My personal opinion based on some of the reviews I have read, if you are planning on OC'ing the CPU (either Intel or AMD) a 360 would be required as a minimum.
If you are going to add an "RTX 2080 Ti" than I would at least add another 240. Better off adding at least another 280 or 360 for quieter performance. Nobody likes their fans screaming at them in the middle of a game.

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Not sure about distro plate its for older maximus's, but I want a distro plate or reservoir plate at least. Any suggestions. Also looking at msi mb vCard etc any input?

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10900k (or 3900x or 3950x, haven't desided for exactly which one yet)
Asus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC

And I am trying to decide do i wc just cpu or both, if I do both do I do more then a 360 rad? I am using the ASUS ROG Strix Helios GX601 with a Bykski Distro Plate - Asus Rog Strix Helios
My opinions...

First, don't waste money on an EK CPU block. If you want to spend a similar amount of money, and have a much better block, go with an Optimus Foundation. If you want to spend less, but still get a better block than the EK, go with a heatkiller IV. My only opinion on the corsair stuff is that I don't trust them to do custom loop gear. They're great for repacking stuff made by other people, but they always seem to cut corners.

For the rads:

For the processor, I'd suggest at least a higher performing 360mm slim (hwlabs GTS 360) with fans pushing. For better performance, you could go with a thicker radiator and/or have fans in a push/pull arrangement. In fact, if you go with the 10900k, you'd probably want a medium thickness 360 at minimum.

Adding in the 2080Ti, I'd suggest a adding another 360mm.

More radiator surface area is better, and with both the CPU and GPU at load, they'll be chewing through 500-600 watts of power before you even start overclocking.

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Samsung 970 EVO Plus
Power Supply
Seasonic Prime TX-750
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EKWB Velocity CPU Water Block
Cooling
HWLabs 360GTS Radiator
Cooling
EK-XTOP with D5 Pump
Cooling
Monsoon MMRS tube Res
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Thermaltake Core X5
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Ok thanks, now on conf do I want 2 loops or can I do 1 loop and if so whats the conf? I wc before but that was 6 years ago or longer and it was my first loop system and I loss the system in a house fire 3 years ago.

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Ok thanks, now on conf do I want 2 loops or can I do 1 loop and if so whats the conf? I wc before but that was 6 years ago or longer and it was my first loop system and I loss the system in a house fire 3 years ago.
A single loop will likely work best. To be honest, I've never seen the advantage of multiple loops, so perhaps someone else could better answer that question.

CPU
Ryzen 9 3900X
Motherboard
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GPU
NVidia RTX 2070 Super Founders Edition
RAM
G.Skill Ripjaws 32GB 3600 CL16 (Hynix DJR @ 16-16-19-21)
Hard Drive
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Power Supply
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Cooling
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Cooling
HWLabs 360GTS Radiator
Cooling
EK-XTOP with D5 Pump
Cooling
Monsoon MMRS tube Res
Case
Thermaltake Core X5
Operating System
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Monitor
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What thicken? 60mm or 38mm? What rgb fans to with it?

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Also can you recommend some good addressable rgb fans?

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What thicken? 60mm or 38mm? What rgb fans to with it?
I'd suggest reading the following link. It will give you a great idea of the kinds of radiators, thicknesses, etc: https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/1...or-round-2015/ (It's a very in-depth article, but the information is absolutely worth reading.)

I can't fairly suggest any particular radiator that I haven't used, however that link (and many pages of data within) should give you enough information to make more informed decisions. In your shoes, I'd assume needing to cool 600 watts. Better to have too much radiator than not enough.

As for fans, won't make any suggestions for RGB. My radiator fans are for cooling the radiator, not for looking pretty and I've probably tried dozens of brands over the years. Today, my radiators are using corsair ML's or EK Varder's, but that's not an endorsement, just what I happened to have on hand when I put things together.

CPU
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Motherboard
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GPU
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RAM
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Hard Drive
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Power Supply
Seasonic Prime TX-750
Cooling
EKWB Velocity CPU Water Block
Cooling
HWLabs 360GTS Radiator
Cooling
EK-XTOP with D5 Pump
Cooling
Monsoon MMRS tube Res
Case
Thermaltake Core X5
Operating System
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Monitor
Asus PB328Q 32" WQHD
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Quote: Originally Posted by Darkshadow74 View Post
Hi,

As the title says, I am about to start a build and I am watercooling. My question is should I use Ek or Corsair?
No. Period. There are significantly better quality components at lower prices in every aspect (blocks, rads, pumps, reservoirs, fittings, tubing.....EVERY aspect). EK is overpriced mediocrity in their best components, and Corsair rebrands HWL's bottom tier rads and Bitspower fittings and adds 50% to the price to pay for the little sailboat sticker...and their blocks are, shall we say, not very good quality.
For anyone to help, you need to let us know what case this is going in.

Quote: Originally Posted by Darkshadow74 View Post
And I am trying to decide do i wc just cpu or both, if I do both do I do more then a 360 rad? I am using the ASUS ROG Strix Helios GX601 with a Bykski Distro Plate - Asus Rog Strix Helios
Do both, or at least plan your loop to be able to add the GPU in the future.
And if you could let us know what case you are using, it would be a huge help in recommendations.

Quote: Originally Posted by Darkshadow74 View Post
Ok thanks, now on conf do I want 2 loops or can I do 1 loop and if so whats the conf? I wc before but that was 6 years ago or longer and it was my first loop system and I loss the system in a house fire 3 years ago.
Do one loop. Dual loops in your scenario would provide no advantages, but may well present some disadvantages since all of your cooling potential would not be available to both components.
Did I mention that knowing what case you are using would be a huge help?

Quote: Originally Posted by Darkshadow74 View Post
What thicken? 60mm or 38mm? What rgb fans to with it?
HWL doesn't make either of these size rads (I assume you are talking about rads.....), so I would say neither. Also, rad application doesn't go by thickness, it goes by desired traits. Do you want cool and quiet? Do you want max performance at the cost of your computer sounding like a vacuum cleaner? Something more balanced?
And....without knowing what case you are using, it is impossible to recommend rads.

Quote: Originally Posted by Darkshadow74 View Post
Also can you recommend some good addressable rgb fans?
The best addressable argeebee fans are actual good fans with Phanteks Halos or another lighting source added. They are fans, not lights. You don't say "I'm hot, I'd better turn on some lights", you say "I'm hot, I'd better turn on a fan/AC". This same principle should be applied in your build.
Did I mention that recommending fans without knowing what fits in your case is impossible.....and knowing what will fit in the case without knowing what case it is would be impossible?

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