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New Loop Build - Looking for Parts Review

Hello. I'm thinking of breaking into custom water cooling but I'm not exactly sure I've got all bases covered. Below are the parts I'm looking to cool and below that are the parts I've pieced together from EKWB using their configurator with some modifications. This is for a gaming rig. Open to tips/suggestions/opinions. Please let me know what you think.

CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K overclocked to 5GHz all cores, currently cooled with a Corsair H150i Pro RGB AIO
GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Hybrid Gaming with an overclock of +110/+1100
Case: Fractal Design R6
Note: CPU and GPU temps tend to hang around the mid-60s C depending on the game/application, sometimes cooler, and low 30s when idle. Wanting to bring them down a bit when under load. Ambient room temp tends to hang around 24-26° C for reference.

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CPU Block: EK-Quantum Velocity D-RGB - Nickel + Plexi
Pump/Res: EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 200 D5 PWM D-RGB - Plexi
GPU Block: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 2080 Ti D-RGB - Nickel + Plexi
GPU Backplate: EK-Quantum Vector FTW3 RTX 2080 Ti Backplate - Black
Top Rad: EK-CoolStream PE 360 (Triple)
Front Rad: EK-CoolStream SE 240 (Slim Dual)
Fittings: EK-Torque STC-10/13 - Black
Drain Valve: EK-AF Ball Valve (10mm) G1/4 - Black
For Drain Valve: EK-AF Extender 12mm M-M G1/4 - Black
For Drain Valve: EK-CSQ Plug G1/4 - Black
Tubing: EK-DuraClear 9,5/12,7mm 3M RETAIL
Coolant: EK-CryoFuel Navy Blue (Premix 1000mL)
Note: Wondering if a fill port would be worthwhile. Also, no fans listed as I have plenty of Corsair ML-120s
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I'd avoid using nickel if you're hell bent on EK, go no nickel.


if you're hell bent on it, get Optimus or HeatKiller nickel blocks, so the finish will last a little while. (they're also better performing products, they're both top tier for the industry on all CPU series)



i'd also NOT use EK coolant. They stopped Rebranding Mayhems coolant, and have had a ton of issues ever since(we see it ALL the time here). Best bet Mayhems X1(V2/Eco) or Mayhems Biocide+ inhibitor+


I appreciate your attempt for a full EK system, but it'll come at the cost of total possible performance.



Better radiators = Hardware Labs SR2



I'd also recommend going with EK's dual D5 pump based on the size of your loop.


another recommendation for all your pumps/LEDs, fans etc. Aquacompunter OCTO = full RGB control, pump control, fan control, curve control, monitoring, etc in one piece of software with vastly superior programming & functionality to iCue, Commander, motherboard level solutions, MSI Sync, and all the other Big Box Gamer Gear brand companies. aquacomputer also makes REALLY good blocks, like optimus & Heatkiller.



OCTO = for fans pumps & LEDs via Aquasuite
High Flow Sensor & temp sensor in one.

https://www.performance-pcs.com/aqua...r-pwm-fan.html
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?language=en&products_id=3832https ://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-flow-rate-sensor-high-flow-usb-g1-4-aq-53129.html

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Thanks for the input. I only went with EK because it's a brand I've heard of and they have a configurator. Not ashamed to admit to being a total noob when it comes to custom loops. I'll definitely check out the other manufacturers you mentioned and their products.
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You will probably get a lot of "EK sux" replies. IMO, they aren't the best but they aren't the worst either. I went with EK in my build because it was easier than tracking 5 different vendors and waiting forever for the components I wanted to be in stock. I seriously waited for almost 2 months for a Heatkiller block to be restocked before I gave up and went with EK.



A fill port can make things easier depending on layout, but it may not be necessary if you have easy access to the res. I would be more concerned about adding a temp sensor and maybe a flow meter, as these should be included in every loop.



The only components I would really consider changing are the tubing and coolant. Primochill and Mayhems both offer much better tubing for about the same price. I started with EK tubing, and it clouded up within about a month. I switched to Primochill almost a year ago and the tubing still looks as good as it did the day I installed it. I have a couple of short pieces of Mayhems tubing in my loop as well, and it is also still in good shape.


Mayhems coolant is the most popular for a reason. It's good, it lasts, and it doesn't stain or clump.



You will also probably want to get a prep/cleaning kit for the new components. This is another item where Mayhems is probably the best on the market (Blitz Kit).

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Thanks for the input. I only went with EK because it's a brand I've heard of and they have a configurator. Not ashamed to admit to being a total noob when it comes to custom loops. I'll definitely check out the other manufacturers you mentioned and their products.

no worries, the configurator is a great place to a get a list of all the possible pieces you want, which you can then build on from there. You could always fire the trigger on all of that, & be off to the races with a functional system. or you could further tune things..


personally at the least I'd do the following


upgrade to EK's dual PWM D5 pump combo

add the aquacomputer parts linked below
go with mayhems coolant (https://www.performance-pcs.com/mayh...mx1c250ml.html)



You're gonna catch a lot of EK flak because we've seen their products degrade in quality slowly over the years, so the performance extremists cast extreme views on the matter. They aren't wrong that the nickel finish is trash though, and they aren't wrong that their coolant is trash as well.


Performance-Pcs.com & Frozencpu are the best places to get parts in the US, with Amazon coming in second.





For real though, these three things are next level for system control.



https://www.performance-pcs.com/fans...r-pwm-fan.html
https://www.performance-pcs.com/wate...-aq-53129.html
https://www.performance-pcs.com/wate...-aq-53234.html



You can technically control your pump from the OCTO as well, just not sure if it would be stuck at the same speed as the other fans (not sure if the octo gives individual control as I use Aquaero instead of OCTO)

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Quote: Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo View Post
You will probably get a lot of "EK sux" replies. IMO, they aren't the best but they aren't the worst either. I went with EK in my build because it was easier than tracking 5 different vendors and waiting forever for the components I wanted to be in stock. I seriously waited for almost 2 months for a Heatkiller block to be restocked before I gave up and went with EK.



A fill port can make things easier depending on layout, but it may not be necessary if you have easy access to the res. I would be more concerned about adding a temp sensor and maybe a flow meter, as these should be included in every loop.



The only components I would really consider changing are the tubing and coolant. Primochill and Mayhems both offer much better tubing for about the same price. I started with EK tubing, and it clouded up within about a month. I switched to Primochill almost a year ago and the tubing still looks as good as it did the day I installed it. I have a couple of short pieces of Mayhems tubing in my loop as well, and it is also still in good shape.


Mayhems coolant is the most popular for a reason. It's good, it lasts, and it doesn't stain or clump.



You will also probably want to get a prep/cleaning kit for the new components. This is another item where Mayhems is probably the best on the market (Blitz Kit).
I have no doubt EK isn't the best. Just looking to make things easy with purchasing. My goal as this point is to get it right the first time. Will be looking into Mayhems and Primochill. Thank you for the suggestions.
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you can also clone blitz kit in the future with watered down pool acid & dawn dish soap

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you can also clone blitz kit in the future with watered down pool acid & dawn dish soap

Yeah, vinegar or citric acid also work (diluted of course). It also wouldn't hurt to throw a filter in somewhere. You can buy a cheap inline fuel filter at any auto parts store with the correct barbs.

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no worries, the configurator is a great place to a get a list of all the possible pieces you want, which you can then build on from there. You could always fire the trigger on all of that, & be off to the races with a functional system. or you could further tune things..


personally at the least I'd do the following


upgrade to EK's dual PWM D5 pump combo

add the aquacomputer parts linked below
go with mayhems coolant (https://www.performance-pcs.com/mayh...mx1c250ml.html)



You're gonna catch a lot of EK flak because we've seen their products degrade in quality slowly over the years, so the performance extremists cast extreme views on the matter. They aren't wrong that the nickel finish is trash though, and they aren't wrong that their coolant is trash as well.




Performance-Pcs.com & Frozencpu are the best places to get parts in the US, with Amazon coming in second.





For real though, these three things are next level for system control.



https://www.performance-pcs.com/fans...r-pwm-fan.html
https://www.performance-pcs.com/wate...-aq-53129.html
https://www.performance-pcs.com/wate...-aq-53234.html



You can technically control your pump from the OCTO as well, just not sure if it would be stuck at the same speed as the other fans (not sure if the octo gives individual control as I use Aquaero instead of OCTO)
If I go with EK stuff, I'll probably get the D5 dual you mentioned. Again, all that was put together with their configurator, and then I made some changes/additions to it. I'm not even sure going with a single loop for the CPU and GPU is the best route to go. A single loop is all I think my case can accommodate, though. I think I'd even prefer a 360 rad in the front, but that too I don't think my case can handle. That's why I chose a 240. I've only had the Fractal R6 for about a year and a half, but maybe it's already time for a new one. Otherwise, what's wrong with nickel out of curiosity?
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It's not a problem with nickel in general, it's just that EK has some well documented QC issues with their plating/process. EK's nickel plated components have a fairly common flaking and/or corrosion problem. I haven't seen it in my components but there are lots of reports of it.

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