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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-12-2020, 07:14 PM - Thread Starter
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Newbie Cooling questions

Hey guys,

I've been pretty new to the custom cooling game even though i've been building my Pc's since 80286 sx25

So long story short, i've decided to get a new rig for custom cooling, Ordered 10900k and Asus Maximus xii formula and Thermaltake Core P3..As i dove in to the massive pool of custom cooling parts, I've realized that i would need 2 of 360 radiators since i'm planning on grabbing the new 3090 or whatever Nvidia names the new card. So now the first questions is, do i go back to the drawing board on the case or is mounting 2 360s on P3 viable?
If not, what would be the ideal case for mounting 2 of these bad boys? Also i was looking at a MB cooler that EK made for Maximus formula but so far the general consensus seems to be "avoid EK". Is there a better CPU+MB block combo for these? I guess i'll have a million more questions so thanks for all the patience
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-13-2020, 06:39 AM
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Personally I’ve used EK waterblocks for yrs and have only had one issue. This was the original plating issues they had yrs ago. I’ve had 4 or 5 nickel block since with out any issues. If I was in the market for another block I would seriously consider Optimus water cooling blocks.

Are you referring to EKs CPU block that also doubles as a bridge to the VRM integrated cooler?

I would drop the P3 case, what size case are you looking at getting. There is way to many case choices to recommend just one, to many variables. Start looking at dedicated water cooling cases. Post back what you like and people will give you their experiences. If I ever replace my caselabs mercury S8, I would look at some thing in the Lian Li lines.

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Hi,
Bottom line z490 doesn't need a water block on vrm's so it's just overkill
Apex and save 100.us or hero and save a hair more.

2-360mm is a tough one if that is all you can fit do so but be ready to add a watercool mora 360 or 420 or just skip right to the 420 and forget the 2-360mm rads

CPU
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Optical Drive
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Cooling
D5 pump reservoir combo/ GTX280/ VRM block/ GTX280/ D5 top/ CPU block/ GPU block/ Mora 360/ repeat.
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MO-RA3 360 PRO stainless steel (25022)
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corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
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Power Supply
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Cooling
D5 reservior combo/ 240GTX/ 240GTX/ D5 Top/ CPU block/ Gpu block/ Mora 360LT/ back to reservoir
Cooling
Mora 360LT black 25000
Case
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Optical Drive
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Power Supply
EVGA 1000-P2
Cooling
D5 reservior combo/ 240GTX/ Koolance VRM block/ 240GTX/ D5 Top/ CPU block/ Gpu block/ Mora 360LT/ back to reservoir
Cooling
Mora 360LT black 25000
Case
Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Bottom line z490 doesn't need a water block on vrm's so it's just overkill
Apex and save 100.us or hero and save a hair more.

2-360mm is a tough one if that is all you can fit do so but be ready to add a watercool mora 360 or 420 or just skip right to the 420 and forget the 2-360mm rads

With the 390 series the VRM’s don’t even need the heat sink. The block was a complete waste.
Plus it’s a total pain to route tubing if not hardline. Really avoid the Formula boards, they are never worth it.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Shawnb99 View Post
With the 390 series the VRM’s don’t even need the heat sink. The block was a complete waste.
Plus it’s a total pain to route tubing if not hardline. Really avoid the Formula boards, they are never worth it.
Hi,
I had a formula the soft tubing was okay just a little unorthodox needed a 45 degree off the bottom vrm port is all.
Seeing vrm's haven't gone over 55c yet on 5.3 on apex I'd prefer the 100.us savings for something else rather than for formula

Formula led screen sucks never shuts off flickers.. needs asus crapware to mess with I will not miss that
M.2 layout is a sad joke.

CPU
i9-9940x With Optimus SigV2 and Heatkiller VRM copper-plexi water block
Motherboard
ASUS x299 Rampage VI Apex
GPU
Titan Xp with copper-plexi Water Block
RAM
Trident Z 3600C16 4x8gb's b-die default timings 16-16-16-36 F4-3600C16Q-32GTZKK
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
evga 1200p2
Cooling
D5 pump reservoir combo/ GTX280/ VRM block/ GTX280/ D5 top/ CPU block/ GPU block/ Mora 360/ repeat.
Cooling
MO-RA3 360 PRO stainless steel (25022)
Case
corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 pro & 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion spectrum
Mouse
Redragon Perdition
Audio
Built in realtek and Insignia 2.0 soundbar HSB318
CPU
10900k batch # X016E724 with Optimus Foundation water block
Motherboard
z490 ASUS Maximus XII Apex
GPU
EVGA 1080ti FTW3 with Water block
RAM
Trident-Z 3600c16 4x8gb kit 16-16-16-36 F4-3600C16Q-32GTZSW
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 evo 500gb
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
EVGA 1000P2
Cooling
D5 reservior combo/ 240GTX/ 240GTX/ D5 Top/ CPU block/ Gpu block/ Mora 360LT/ back to reservoir
Cooling
Mora 360LT black 25000
Case
Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Keyboard
Logitech G710+
Mouse
Red Dragon Perdition
CPU
i7-5930k with Heatkiller IV Pro Plexi-Copper and koolance vrm water blocks
Motherboard
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GPU
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RAM
Trident-Z 3200C14 4x8gb's b-die default timings 14-14-14-34
Hard Drive
Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M.2/ Samsung 850 Pro 256gb for os and 500gb evo for favorite games plus other wd hdd's for data and backup's
Optical Drive
LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40
Power Supply
EVGA 1000-P2
Cooling
D5 reservior combo/ 240GTX/ Koolance VRM block/ 240GTX/ D5 Top/ CPU block/ Gpu block/ Mora 360LT/ back to reservoir
Cooling
Mora 360LT black 25000
Case
Corsair 450D with added 2nd floor to house radiator on top
Operating System
Win-7 and 10 pro Win-7 Primary os.
Monitor
AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz
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Mouse
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Audio
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Quote: Originally Posted by Shawnb99 View Post
With the 390 series the VRM’s don’t even need the heat sink. The block was a complete waste.
Plus it’s a total pain to route tubing if not hardline. Really avoid the Formula boards, they are never worth it.
Can confirm! Love me some Asus, but I think I flushed my money down the drain for my Formula board. Like @Shawnb99 was saying, plumbing it up is a PITA if you care at all about aesthetics.

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Thanks for all the replies guys!

So I'm dropping the C3 for Lian Li Pc-011 Wgx , dropping the Formula for Apex...
As far as the cooling , looks like im either going with Heatkiller IV or Optimus Foundation, 2xHWL GTS or maybe check out 420..Got Primochill and Mayhems for tubing and fittings..
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The P3 is a really nice case but limited to a single 420 rad (Giggity) max. I've seen some interesting DIY solutions for adding multiple rads to the P3, but none that I felt looked just right for my liking. Can't go wrong with Lian Li.

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Sounds like you are heading in a good direction. The 011 cases don't support 420mm rads, so you should stick to 360mm. You can fit 3 radiators though.

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Thanks for all the replies guys!

So I'm dropping the C3 for Lian Li Pc-011 Wgx , dropping the Formula for Apex...
As far as the cooling , looks like im either going with Heatkiller IV or Optimus Foundation, 2xHWL GTS or maybe check out 420..Got Primochill and Mayhems for tubing and fittings..
I can't speak for the tubing or fittings, since I haven't used hardline components from either, but excellent choices on everything else.

Yeah....the little girl hentai avatar is really creeping me out....
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