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post #109481 of 110314 (permalink) Old 04-20-2019, 07:41 AM
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Thanks. That’s very helpful. I’ve been looking on extreme rigs for reviews but I think a few of Martin liquid labs links are down.

My first concern isn’t necessarily the amount of static pressure or rpm because I’m using black ice gtx and gtr rads and they don’t seem overly obstructive in their fpi. I am concerned about noise though and noctua seems to be the quietest. If that’s incorrect please let me know.


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Strictly answering this: "I am concerned about noise though and noctua seems to be the quietest. If that’s incorrect please let me know."

I can only tell you what my ears hear. To me, eLoops and Piranhas are louder at the same speed than GTs, Vardar and Noctua. Noctuas are quieter than Vardar. An anechoic chamber is the only environment that can deliver a definitive answer as to absolute sound produced by any fan. Noctuas and GTs have a gentle whoosh to my ears at comparable speeds, although the Noctua gets the edge for lower sound overall to my ears.

Now my perspective on buying: The difference isn't enough for me to jump out and always pay the extra money for the Noctua brand. They are all great quality fans and they all do a solid job on radiators or as case fans in terms of performance and keeping noise down. If after reading articles, reviews and chatting around, like here, you are leaning toward Noctua, buy them. Whether the beige, redux or industrial, no matter, you most likely won't be disappointed.

Keep in mind if you ramp up the speed over 1800 RPM, they will make noise and you will hear it.

Partially off-topic - I just bought four Vardar 120 ER PWM fans for an upcoming SFF utilizing two Hardware Labs 240 GTS rads. I can't wait! Unfortunately it's a multi-month build since I am waiting to see what Ryzen 3rd gen and Navi turn out to be.

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Strictly answering this: "I am concerned about noise though and noctua seems to be the quietest. If that’s incorrect please let me know."



I can only tell you what my ears hear. To me, eLoops and Piranhas are louder at the same speed than GTs, Vardar and Noctua. Noctuas are quieter than Vardar. An anechoic chamber is the only environment that can deliver a definitive answer as to absolute sound produced by any fan. Noctuas and GTs have a gentle whoosh to my ears at comparable speeds, although the Noctua gets the edge for lower sound overall to my ears.



Now my perspective on buying: The difference isn't enough for me to jump out and always pay the extra money for the Noctua brand. They are all great quality fans and they all do a solid job on radiators or as case fans in terms of performance and keeping noise down. If after reading articles, reviews and chatting around, like here, you are leaning toward Noctua, buy them. Whether the beige, redux or industrial, no matter, you most likely won't be disappointed.



Keep in mind if you ramp up the speed over 1800 RPM, they will make noise and you will hear it.


That’s correct. And I felt like the grey redux was the best bargain. It also has the same warranty as the nf12...and at $15-16 a fan after buying the bumpers, it’s around the same price as the corsairs SP120 I’m used to.


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For those who have multiple d5 pumps in series- did you add the extra ones because of flow restriction, or for redundancy? I thought I would get a much larger pressure drop with my loop but I didn’t and I already got a dual d5 top...

Is it possible to run both on low, and simulate the effect of one pump on medium or high?


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For those who have multiple d5 pumps in series- did you add the extra ones because of flow restriction, or for redundancy? I thought I would get a much larger pressure drop with my loop but I didn’t and I already got a dual d5 top...

Is it possible to run both on low, and simulate the effect of one pump on medium or high?


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I got a second Mcp35x2 just to run them both at 30% and dead silent. Run them as slow as you need and maintain 1GPM

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dual pumps is 50% redundancy 50% being able to run them at lower speeds for = to performance.


As long as you're north of like 120lph, you're golden.

I'm looking forward to splitting my loop & adding a second one. cpu & memory in one loop, gpus & board in the other. perfecto!

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Just noticed the void if removed warranty stickers on my Mcp35x2 has fallen off on its own and the second one is coming loose as well. Seems to be poor job sticking.
Seems my warranty is void on this pair, good thing these things tend to last for years.



The new one looks to be a better job.
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yep, the heat makes them turn to dust.

My one unit is at 6+ years 24/7 up time.

I removed mine after a year though, to upgrade to metal cans.

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Just noticed the void if removed warranty stickers on my Mcp35x2 has fallen off on its own and the second one is coming loose as well. Seems to be poor job sticking.
Seems my warranty is void on this pair, good thing these things tend to last for years.



The new one looks to be a better job.
Will be keeping an eye on this


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I’m not to worried these things last years plus it’ll be at the slowest speeds so should be fine.

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I’m not to worried these things last years plus it’ll be at the slowest speeds so should be fine.


this - I'd also stick to using software control for PWM.

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