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Hey people.

I recently changed my desk but for some reason my case doesn't fit quiet well (my desk is now lower and so it's killing my back after prolonged time.
The case was on the floor before but I wanted to change my desk anyway (was a bit old) and while I was at it I decided to place my case on it... after all: why do we make nice builds to have them stand onder the desk, right?

Anyway. I've decided to change my case lol.
Some of you might know, I have my top radiator and pump on the outside of the case because of space limitations.

Because of the radiator, and pump, sticking out at the top I can't have my desk higher than it is now. There is a plank above it that restricts that....
So I want to buy a case that actually fits the parts so it is lowered slightly. Still higher compared to my 650D but lower when compared to the current height. biggrin.gif

I've done some research and narrowed down my choice. Although other idea's/tips are very much welcome.
Would you guys/girls be so kind to have a look at my post here:
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Hey biggrin.gif I don't remember if I had already posted this video I made a few weeks ago rolleyes.gif

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Hey guys, so, I've got a question. My load temperatures when gaming are pretty toasty. And I think that my CPU actually runs warmer on water than it did on air. My CPU during games with my loop can reach up to like 65C when it's warm in my room, but usually is around 55-60C.

The GPU runs around 50C tops, in extreme cases 55-60C but never more. Yet my motherboard in games is only around 45-50C, and my drives are both usually under 40C by a few degrees. I've gone back and forth between having my fans as intake (which seems like the worse set up, as it blows the hot air directly onto the motherboard/CPU socket) and as they currently are, which is exhaust. My issue is, I don't really have any other space for additional cooling, given my computers small size. Last I checked the thermal paste was spread evenly and properly. And ideas what I can do? I've even considered removing my HDD, and trying to move the pump somewhere else, and placing the radiator directly under the GPU. Issue is with that, it'd be suffocated for air and I'd need to use 15mm thick fans. Also, I wouldn't have a way to directly feed my pump from the reservoir. I might be better off upgrading to a slightly larger case like the Phanteks Evolv ITX or Define Nano S, is most likely what I'd need to do.

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Hey guys, so, I've got a question. My load temperatures when gaming are pretty toasty. And I think that my CPU actually runs warmer on water than it did on air. My CPU during games with my loop can reach up to like 65C when it's warm in my room, but usually is around 55-60C.

The GPU runs around 50C tops, in extreme cases 55-60C but never more. Yet my motherboard in games is only around 45-50C, and my drives are both usually under 40C by a few degrees. I've gone back and forth between having my fans as intake (which seems like the worse set up, as it blows the hot air directly onto the motherboard/CPU socket) and as they currently are, which is exhaust. My issue is, I don't really have any other space for additional cooling, given my computers small size. Last I checked the thermal paste was spread evenly and properly. And ideas what I can do? I've even considered removing my HDD, and trying to move the pump somewhere else, and placing the radiator directly under the GPU. Issue is with that, it'd be suffocated for air and I'd need to use 15mm thick fans. Also, I wouldn't have a way to directly feed my pump from the reservoir. I might be better off upgrading to a slightly larger case like the Phanteks Evolv ITX or Define Nano S, is most likely what I'd need to do.

Fans blowing air from the radiator onto parts won't heat them excessively, what CPU is it? is your flow correct through the CPU block? Can you show me your setup and I can advise better?
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Hey people.

I recently changed my desk but for some reason my case doesn't fit quiet well (my desk is now lower and so it's killing my back after prolonged time.
The case was on the floor before but I wanted to change my desk anyway (was a bit old) and while I was at it I decided to place my case on it... after all: why do we make nice builds to have them stand onder the desk, right?

Anyway. I've decided to change my case lol.
Some of you might know, I have my top radiator and pump on the outside of the case because of space limitations.

Because of the radiator, and pump, sticking out at the top I can't have my desk higher than it is now. There is a plank above it that restricts that....
So I want to buy a case that actually fits the parts so it is lowered slightly. Still higher compared to my 650D but lower when compared to the current height. biggrin.gif

I've done some research and narrowed down my choice. Although other idea's/tips are very much welcome.
Would you guys/girls be so kind to have a look at my post here:
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As you mentioned the S8 in your post at the Phanteks Club, I'm going to say that you should go with the S8.
If it's really beyond your budget, I understand. But it's worth every cent, no mass-market cases can compare to CaseLabs level of quality and engineering.

That would take care of your rad and pump, with room to spare.cheers.gif

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Fans blowing air from the radiator onto parts won't heat them excessively, what CPU is it? is your flow correct through the CPU block? Can you show me your setup and I can advise better?
Yeah, my flow is correct. But it's the smallness of the case. As it's set up right now, it goes Reservoir -> Pump -> GPU -> CPU -> Radiator -> Reservoir.




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As you mentioned the S8 in your post at the Phanteks Club, I'm going to say that you should go with the S8.
If it's really beyond your budget, I understand. But it's worth every cent, no mass-market cases can compare to CaseLabs level of quality and engineering.

That would take care of your rad and pump, with room to spare.cheers.gif

Yeah I agree that they are very nice, even though I haven't seen one in person I'd imagine that I will be sold when I do.
But to be honest, the Enthoo Primo is already a bit high on price for my budget currently. And the S8 will be about double that.

Anyway.
What I am looking for is some experience on the two mentioned Phanteks cases. My biggest concern is the size of my gpu not allowing the pump/top combo to be mounted on the reservoir mount.

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Yeah, my flow is correct. But it's the smallness of the case. As it's set up right now, it goes Reservoir -> Pump -> GPU -> CPU -> Radiator -> Reservoir.




Oh boy.
I read your previous post/original question and I imagined you had a small case but this is extreme. Haha

Are you using a single radiator?
Honestly I don't understand why you even went water with such a small cube.
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Yeah, my flow is correct. But it's the smallness of the case. As it's set up right now, it goes Reservoir -> Pump -> GPU -> CPU -> Radiator -> Reservoir. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



You only have one radiator for 2 components? Are they overclocked? is that an x99 build?
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You only have one radiator for 2 components? Are they overclocked? is that an x99 build?

He's running an X99E-ITX/AC in an Ncase M1. Probably a 5820k, although I've been wrong before.

@Sazexa the single 240 shouldn't really be a problem as radiator efficiency goes up dramatically with more thermal load. I do think you may need to adjust your expectations, though. 55-65C is completely reasonable for a build this small with so little room to dissipate heat. I'm not exactly sure what you're worried about though, as those are completely normal and safe operating temperatures.

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Are you using a single radiator?
Honestly I don't understand why you even went water with such a small cube.
Before hand, the GPU would be at almost 85C. Plus I wanted the challenge of going to a watercooled build in such a confined space.
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You only have one radiator for 2 components? Are they overclocked? is that an x99 build?
Yeah, and it works pretty well. They aren't overclocked, but it's an i7-5820K and a GTX 980 on a single EK SE 240 (240mm x 26mm)
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He's running an X99E-ITX/AC in an Ncase M1. Probably a 5820k, although I've been wrong before.

@Sazexa the single 240 shouldn't really be a problem as radiator efficiency goes up dramatically with more thermal load. I do think you may need to adjust your expectations, though. 55-65C is completely reasonable for a build this small with so little room to dissipate heat. I'm not exactly sure what you're worried about though, as those are completely normal and safe operating temperatures.
I think you're right, I just need to adjust expectations. I know they're acceptable. I'm just slightly worried about the temperatures of a Samsung 950 Pro. I'm considering getting one, but worried it'll thermal throttle. I'd like to remove the HDD from the system, use the 950 Pro as my primary/boot drive, and then maybe a few high capacity SSD's, to really make it speedy over-all. The SSD's don't throw off much heat, but the HDD does.

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