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Quote: Originally Posted by ShrimpBrime View Post
Now this is a very impressive build!! I mean it's big and wonderfully built. I think I read OP at 1750w of TECs!

6 X 331watt 31volt TEC's
6 X 224watt 24volt TEC's

I'm very curious the part numbers for these TECs!! I've been using a Singe TEC# 12715 Qmax of only 136W but was the largest watt TEC I could find that fit easily under most waterblocks at only 40mm. Do you have a couple of part numbers?

Maybe a suggestion for a single TEC solution?

lets start with the 224watt 24volt TEC's they are 40mm X 40mm. TEC model # 19911-5P31-15CQ-WT.


https://customthermoelectric.com/199...er-module.html


and the 331watt 31volt TEC's they are 50mm X 50mm. TEC model # 26311-5P31-17CW.


https://customthermoelectric.com/263...er-module.html


now I do suggest having the ruggedized epoxy upgrade done to the TEC's as this makes them a lot stronger, I asked for the wire upgrade to make the wires harder to pull out. this is a $20 upgrade per TEC, but I would say that it is well worth it.


https://customthermoelectric.com/cus...c-options.html



The following Epoxy based syntactic foam ruggedization seals the TEC from moisture and debris AND also strengthens the TEC against shock, vibration, and shear forces.

SE = Epoxy edge seal, 2+ mm deep

SR = Epoxy Ruggedized Sealing, 5+ mm deep

SRX = Epoxy Ruggedized Sealing, 5+ mm deep, with epoxy potting to extend around lead wires following width and thickness of TEC

SRD = Epoxy Ruggedized Sealing, 10+ mm deep or complete fill


SRDX = Epoxy Ruggedized Sealing, deep to 10+ mm or complete fill with epoxy potting to extend around lead wires following width and thickness of TEC


I got the SRX upgrade.

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9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
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19 X CPU water blocks
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2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
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Most excellent! Them 40mm TECs aren't cheap at 50 bucks a crack!! BUT they are twice the strength than the one I use now. It's done very well through the years for me on occasional usage.

The one I had gotten came pre-sealed. Here's the data sheet. http://www.thermonamic.com/TEC1-12715-English.PDF
Purchased that from e-bay years ago. It was 10 bucks maybe?

So a little history and where it led me, might help you at some point in the future while I fully understand what you HAVE accomplished! _______

When I tried cooling a water loop, I found it near impossible. By reading some of this thread and your build, I was actually in shock at the amount of time effort and money involved with this setup. So I went thinking back to many experiments even down to making water blocks from poured aluminum custom castings, basically a block with holes drilled through it. Discovering it froze the block really easily, I thought perhaps cooling liquid with a few would do the trick. Well, like your system, needed a LOT of heat dissipation from the TECs. And that was a entire separate challenge as you have displayed here!

Always having ideas but limited time I was trying to make a different type of cooler with the blocks I made. Basically chilling the water on the inside of the blocks for the cpu cooling wasn't enough. I figured by using ALL of the surface area to cool the chilling loop, I'd have to run the water ON the blocks and then loop them INTO and through the blocks then straight to the cpu. With project delays, I never was able to make this reality. This was just one of very many ideas to actually USE as much of the TECs cooling capability as possible. Running water through the blocks just didn't supply enough cooling to the surface area of the water passing though. Gah. Wish I had the time for this one. I figure I was loosing 60% or more cooling capability passing water just and only through the water block.

Any how I came to a finalization of build and probably will never turn a cheek to it. It was the one and only way I could run a TEC, Freeze a Cpu and just have fun (not intended for daily use... but could) gaming benchmarking, experimenting with processors (all AMD chips) hitting clocks impossible even with a custom ambient loop. I run a Geothermal water loop to cool my TECs. It's super simple, pretty darn cheap to run and provides a super constant water delta and nice and cool too!! Tap to Drain or geothermal to sound cool seems to have had THE best effect for chilling a TEC and even processors over anything and everything I've ever tried set aside a pond pump in a bucket of Ice Water. The TEC sits on a decent cold plate, 1/8" thick 50mm x 60mm and that's right on top of the processor.

Any how, you are totally living a dream of mine and I really love this thread and others like it. + Rep all day and any one reading this thread should double up on that.

Let me read the thread all the way through though. You're adding more Rads, that I read (going backwards from here) but I have some questions for sure. They may already been answered though......

Big props man. I really dig this. I examined your picture/s a lot. Crazy awesome build man. Keep at it.
Might have to pick up one of those 224W TECs for sure. Right now I can idle a Ryzen 2700x at -25c and colder. At a load it's a little more challenging! XD



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I love this time of year I just got a GTX 1080 ti for $425 I am now ready to build a intel 1151 system with a 9700 CPU. should have the new system up in a few months.


https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GV-N...KCN0FY6WXXJNZJ


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GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
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G skill 2133Mhz
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Intel 3700
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OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
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well that sold out fast less than 4 hours.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
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water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
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microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
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I love this time of year I just got a GTX 1080 ti for $425 I am now ready to build a intel 1151 system with a 9700 CPU. should have the new system up in a few months.


https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GV-N...KCN0FY6WXXJNZJ


below is what I am thinking of building.
3700x and 3800x (sometimes, when it's on sale) are around that price, as well. Though Intel is more fun to OC especially when you get below the dew point

Also, I see you got the Waterforce WB, great card, I have two. No complaints, been OC'd since day one. Well maybe one complaint, the rgb color change program from Gigabyte is hopelessly broken, hope you like red lol

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3700x and 3800x (sometimes, when it's on sale) are around that price, as well. Though Intel is more fun to OC especially when you get below the dew point

Also, I see you got the Waterforce WB, great card, I have two. No complaints, been OC'd since day one. Well maybe one complaint, the rgb color change program from Gigabyte is hopelessly broken, hope you like red lol

well at this point in the build process, I try to look at what water blocks are available, and what motherboards they fit, before I buy anything. in this case, it looks like I will need to get the gigabyte z390 master motherboard. so that I can get a bitspower mono block that fits the motherboard. also considering just getting a 9700K from Silicon lottery binned at 5Ghz.


I am also looking at getting some M.2 SSD's for this system.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
Keyboard
microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
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Motherboard
Intel DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
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G-Skill
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Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus DVD
Power Supply
1250W
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well at this point in the build process, I try to look at what water blocks are available, and what motherboards they fit, before I buy anything. in this case, it looks like I will need to get the gigabyte z390 master motherboard. so that I can get a bitspower mono block that fits the motherboard. also considering just getting a 9700K from Silicon lottery binned at 5Ghz.


I am also looking at getting some M.2 SSD's for this system.
Why monoblock? Z390 VRMs generally stay pretty cool

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Why monoblock? Z390 VRMs generally stay pretty cool
yes that is very true, and with this insane cooling system I built. I would like to show that it really is a full system cooling solution, for the CPU, motherboard, and video card.


ok so I have been running this cooling system on a AMD FX8350 CPU and a ATI 5850 video card. at this point I have 8 360mm radiators cooling the 6 224watt TEC's and 16 360mm radiators cooling the 6 331watt TEC's. the hot side water loops, with the system at load, will stay below 30C on both hot side water loops. and the cold side water loop stays below -10C at load. with this new system, I am expecting it to run as warm as 5C at load. still it is a nice cold water loop, and container for the system to operate within.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
Keyboard
microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
Windows 7
Monitor
Dell 30" ultra sharp
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Mouse
RAT 9
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Gaming Pad
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GTX580
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G-Skill
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Intel 3700
Optical Drive
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Power Supply
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yes that is very true, and with this insane cooling system I built. I would like to show that it really is a full system cooling solution, for the CPU, motherboard, and video card.


ok so I have been running this cooling system on a AMD FX8350 CPU and a ATI 5850 video card. at this point I have 8 360mm radiators cooling the 6 224watt TEC's and 16 360mm radiators cooling the 6 331watt TEC's. the hot side water loops, with the system at load, will stay below 30C on both hot side water loops. and the cold side water loop stays below -10C at load. with this new system, I am expecting it to run as warm as 5C at load. still it is a nice cold water loop, and container for the system to operate within.
Nice temps Do you still use clay for insulation? If so, what kind? Looks like it would be easier to install than the eraser typically used to insulate mobos

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Hard Drive
960 Evo 1TB
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Cooling
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Operating System
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I love this time of year I just got a GTX 1080 ti for $425 I am now ready to build a intel 1151 system with a 9700 CPU. should have the new system up in a few months.


https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GV-N...KCN0FY6WXXJNZJ


below is what I am thinking of building.
great news. That means the 2x I'm putting up this evening will fly!

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