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post #101 of 106 (permalink) Old 04-10-2019, 04:16 AM - Thread Starter
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Now this is a very impressive build!! I mean it's big and wonderfully built. I think I read OP at 1750w of TECs!

6 X 331watt 31volt TEC's
6 X 224watt 24volt TEC's

I'm very curious the part numbers for these TECs!! I've been using a Singe TEC# 12715 Qmax of only 136W but was the largest watt TEC I could find that fit easily under most waterblocks at only 40mm. Do you have a couple of part numbers?

Maybe a suggestion for a single TEC solution?

lets start with the 224watt 24volt TEC's they are 40mm X 40mm. TEC model # 19911-5P31-15CQ-WT.


https://customthermoelectric.com/199...er-module.html


and the 331watt 31volt TEC's they are 50mm X 50mm. TEC model # 26311-5P31-17CW.


https://customthermoelectric.com/263...er-module.html


now I do suggest having the ruggedized epoxy upgrade done to the TEC's as this makes them a lot stronger, I asked for the wire upgrade to make the wires harder to pull out. this is a $20 upgrade per TEC, but I would say that it is well worth it.


https://customthermoelectric.com/cus...c-options.html



The following Epoxy based syntactic foam ruggedization seals the TEC from moisture and debris AND also strengthens the TEC against shock, vibration, and shear forces.

SE = Epoxy edge seal, 2+ mm deep

SR = Epoxy Ruggedized Sealing, 5+ mm deep

SRX = Epoxy Ruggedized Sealing, 5+ mm deep, with epoxy potting to extend around lead wires following width and thickness of TEC

SRD = Epoxy Ruggedized Sealing, 10+ mm deep or complete fill


SRDX = Epoxy Ruggedized Sealing, deep to 10+ mm or complete fill with epoxy potting to extend around lead wires following width and thickness of TEC


I got the SRX upgrade.

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Asus Sabertooth 990FX
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post #102 of 106 (permalink) Old 04-10-2019, 02:33 PM
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Most excellent! Them 40mm TECs aren't cheap at 50 bucks a crack!! BUT they are twice the strength than the one I use now. It's done very well through the years for me on occasional usage.

The one I had gotten came pre-sealed. Here's the data sheet. http://www.thermonamic.com/TEC1-12715-English.PDF
Purchased that from e-bay years ago. It was 10 bucks maybe?

So a little history and where it led me, might help you at some point in the future while I fully understand what you HAVE accomplished! _______

When I tried cooling a water loop, I found it near impossible. By reading some of this thread and your build, I was actually in shock at the amount of time effort and money involved with this setup. So I went thinking back to many experiments even down to making water blocks from poured aluminum custom castings, basically a block with holes drilled through it. Discovering it froze the block really easily, I thought perhaps cooling liquid with a few would do the trick. Well, like your system, needed a LOT of heat dissipation from the TECs. And that was a entire separate challenge as you have displayed here!

Always having ideas but limited time I was trying to make a different type of cooler with the blocks I made. Basically chilling the water on the inside of the blocks for the cpu cooling wasn't enough. I figured by using ALL of the surface area to cool the chilling loop, I'd have to run the water ON the blocks and then loop them INTO and through the blocks then straight to the cpu. With project delays, I never was able to make this reality. This was just one of very many ideas to actually USE as much of the TECs cooling capability as possible. Running water through the blocks just didn't supply enough cooling to the surface area of the water passing though. Gah. Wish I had the time for this one. I figure I was loosing 60% or more cooling capability passing water just and only through the water block.

Any how I came to a finalization of build and probably will never turn a cheek to it. It was the one and only way I could run a TEC, Freeze a Cpu and just have fun (not intended for daily use... but could) gaming benchmarking, experimenting with processors (all AMD chips) hitting clocks impossible even with a custom ambient loop. I run a Geothermal water loop to cool my TECs. It's super simple, pretty darn cheap to run and provides a super constant water delta and nice and cool too!! Tap to Drain or geothermal to sound cool seems to have had THE best effect for chilling a TEC and even processors over anything and everything I've ever tried set aside a pond pump in a bucket of Ice Water. The TEC sits on a decent cold plate, 1/8" thick 50mm x 60mm and that's right on top of the processor.

Any how, you are totally living a dream of mine and I really love this thread and others like it. + Rep all day and any one reading this thread should double up on that.

Let me read the thread all the way through though. You're adding more Rads, that I read (going backwards from here) but I have some questions for sure. They may already been answered though......

Big props man. I really dig this. I examined your picture/s a lot. Crazy awesome build man. Keep at it.
Might have to pick up one of those 224W TECs for sure. Right now I can idle a Ryzen 2700x at -25c and colder. At a load it's a little more challenging! XD



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post #103 of 106 (permalink) Old 09-15-2019, 02:32 PM - Thread Starter
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ok so I found this crazy funny skit online.




and now for some sobering reality.




why do we live in clown world today?

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AMD AM3+
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TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
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microsoft ergo
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RAT 9
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steel series
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DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
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Hard Drive
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Optical Drive
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Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
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3 X CPU air coolers
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and now for some sobering reality.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yYecoZKtz0&t=0s


why do we live in clown world today?

*sigh* I come to OC to see it get politicized.

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post #105 of 106 (permalink) Old 09-19-2019, 05:54 AM - Thread Starter
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*sigh* I come to OC to see it get politicized.

how so? to me their is nothing political about this. this is a clear example of the media abusing their power, to harm others, without any proof, or legal backing to do so. is this really how we want our legal system to end up? or do we need laws to prevent this kind of behavior?

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AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
Keyboard
microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
Windows 7
Monitor
Dell 30" ultra sharp
Keyboard
Blackwidow
Mouse
RAT 9
Mouse
Gaming Pad
Audio
2.1 sound
Audio
G930 head set
CPU
Intel i7 3930K
Motherboard
Intel DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G-Skill
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus DVD
Power Supply
1250W
Cooling
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H2OQPower
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Hi,
Prosecution through accusation no proof needed
Heck of a precedence floating around main stream snow flake demo world they settle then for public shaming and harassment for good measure

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