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post #21 of 106 (permalink) Old 03-09-2018, 10:31 AM
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Looking forward to see this actually cooling a CPU/GPU setup, to see what it can do, Please don't make us wait for the wine cooler.
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ok, so I have all of the fittings, now I am just waiting on the fans.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
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Enermax 1350
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water cooled
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Asus 27"
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microsoft ergo
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RAT 9
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DX79SR
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GTX580
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G skill 2133Mhz
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Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
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G-Skill
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ok, so I have the fans, and this is how I will be installing them. one corsair 2100RPM, one noctua 3000RPM, and one cooler master 1600RPM on each radiator, this will be a interesting setup at the very least. these are 20 FPI radiators so they should benefit from the higher RPM range of the fans.
https://imgur.com/a/JRbQL

well I do like the noctua 3000RPM fans, but they are not cheap.

https://imgur.com/a/ejCFo


ok so I have the radiators done and I am still have the water loop to finish.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
Keyboard
microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
Windows 7
Monitor
Dell 30" ultra sharp
Keyboard
Blackwidow
Mouse
RAT 9
Mouse
Gaming Pad
Audio
2.1 sound
Audio
G930 head set
CPU
Intel i7 3930K
Motherboard
Intel DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G-Skill
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus DVD
Power Supply
1250W
Cooling
Water Cooled
Case
H2OQPower
Operating System
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ok so the next pic will be of all 4 TEC assemblies, all three water loops finished, consisting of the two hot water loops, and the one cold water loop.
ok, so I had to get some more norprene tubing for this build, I also decided to get some fan splitters to clean up some of the wire mess on this build.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
Keyboard
microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
Windows 7
Monitor
Dell 30" ultra sharp
Keyboard
Blackwidow
Mouse
RAT 9
Mouse
Gaming Pad
Audio
2.1 sound
Audio
G930 head set
CPU
Intel i7 3930K
Motherboard
Intel DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G-Skill
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus DVD
Power Supply
1250W
Cooling
Water Cooled
Case
H2OQPower
Operating System
Win7
Monitor
Asus
Keyboard
Razer
Mouse
R.A.T.9
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I'm acquiring some Peltier related junk. I have a Dell H2C unit that has a simple AIO 120mm water loop and 4-40W Peltiers on a water block. It was programmed to cool down to ambient only so no condensation issues, and no heat added from the radiator. It always bothered me that there were no heatpipes in the finsinks on the Peltier block. I may have found a solution for that. I just converted an HD6990 to an aftermarket big air cooler. I took apart the OEM cooler and found 2 Vapor chamber heatsinks. They each have a 40x40mm riased area for the GPU. It looks like they would be good heatsinks for a pair of Peltiers.
The system I'm thinking of would have a large 200W heatpipe cooler, Probably a TR Macho 120 since I own it already. A water block ( Corsair pump block?) on the backside of the CPU block, between the heatpipes and under the fins. I can get the temp. there once the system is running with a laser gun. A pump and loop to another small water block between 2 60-80W Peltiers sandwiched between the 2 vapor chamber heatsinks. The GPU they were from was rated 375W. I'm thinking a separate out board PSU that will switch on/off by a thermal probe at 40*-50* C. I'v seen a lot of surplus server heatsinks and always thought they were just big finsinks. Now I'm beginning to think they might be vapor chamber technology. Any way I'd like to know what you think of this. Big air with a parallel Peltier loop on the backside.

Dell Dimension E520 [email protected]
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Wow this looks serious! Hahaha.

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Half X
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ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula LGA1151 (Intel 8th and 9th Gen) ATX DDR4 HDMI M.2 USB 3.1 Gen2 Z390 Gaming Motherboard
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RTX 2080 TI
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Corsair LPX 32GB DRAM 3000MHz C15
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Power Supply
CORSAIR HXi Series, HX1200i, 1200 Watt, 80+ Platinum Certified, Fully Modular - Digital Power Supply
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EKWB EK-KIT Extreme Series PC Watercooling
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CORSAIR Crystal Series 680X RGB High Airflow Tempered Glass ATX Smart Case, White
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I7-8700K Delidded under a Swiftech Waterblock
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ASUS ROG LGA1151 (Maximus X Hero)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Retrorockit View Post
I'm acquiring some Peltier related junk. I have a Dell H2C unit that has a simple AIO 120mm water loop and 4-40W Peltiers on a water block. It was programmed to cool down to ambient only so no condensation issues, and no heat added from the radiator. It always bothered me that there were no heatpipes in the finsinks on the Peltier block. I may have found a solution for that. I just converted an HD6990 to an aftermarket big air cooler. I took apart the OEM cooler and found 2 Vapor chamber heatsinks. They each have a 40x40mm riased area for the GPU. It looks like they would be good heatsinks for a pair of Peltiers.
The system I'm thinking of would have a large 200W heatpipe cooler, Probably a TR Macho 120 since I own it already. A water block ( Corsair pump block?) on the backside of the CPU block, between the heatpipes and under the fins. I can get the temp. there once the system is running with a laser gun. A pump and loop to another small water block between 2 60-80W Peltiers sandwiched between the 2 vapor chamber heatsinks. The GPU they were from was rated 375W. I'm thinking a separate out board PSU that will switch on/off by a thermal probe at 40*-50* C. I'v seen a lot of surplus server heatsinks and always thought they were just big finsinks. Now I'm beginning to think they might be vapor chamber technology. Any way I'd like to know what you think of this. Big air with a parallel Peltier loop on the backside.
well as OCaddicts build has shown air coolers will work on the hot side of TEC's up to 200watts to the cold side. my own tests showed the same thing, that CPU air coolers will work with TEC up to about 200watts to the cold side. my build is going to be using all water blocks for the hot side of the TEC's, and the cold side of the TEC's, because I want to get the water as cold as possible, so keeping the hot side of the TEC a little cooer with water blocks, will help me do that.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
Keyboard
microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
Windows 7
Monitor
Dell 30" ultra sharp
Keyboard
Blackwidow
Mouse
RAT 9
Mouse
Gaming Pad
Audio
2.1 sound
Audio
G930 head set
CPU
Intel i7 3930K
Motherboard
Intel DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G-Skill
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus DVD
Power Supply
1250W
Cooling
Water Cooled
Case
H2OQPower
Operating System
Win7
Monitor
Asus
Keyboard
Razer
Mouse
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OK I'm not sure you got what I'm suggesting completely.
The finned vapor chamber heatsinks on the TEC hot side would match what your saying and they're about 200W each.
The first water block (collector) in the loop would be on the back side of a 200W CPU air cooler. The sandwich would be CPU/ heatpipe air cooler/ water block looped to Peltier block w/ Vapor chamber heatsinks. I'm not trying for sub ambient. 40*C. would avoid condensation issues. The TECs could be outside the case so any condensation there wouldn't matter. I can fit 200W and 240W air coolers in my system.
I would like to have a 100W assist available when needed without running a water loop full time or building one in the first place.

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OK I'm not sure you got what I'm suggesting completely.
The finned vapor chamber heatsinks on the TEC hot side would match what your saying and they're about 200W each.
The first water block (collector) in the loop would be on the back side of a 200W CPU air cooler. The sandwich would be CPU/ heatpipe air cooler/ water block looped to Peltier block w/ Vapor chamber heatsinks. I'm not trying for sub ambient. 40*C. would avoid condensation issues. The TECs could be outside the case so any condensation there wouldn't matter. I can fit 200W and 240W air coolers in my system.
I would like to have a 100W assist available when needed without running a water loop full time or building one in the first place.
yea, I am guessing that I am imaging something a little different for your own imagination. would you mind doing a quick sketch of the build?

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
Keyboard
microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
Windows 7
Monitor
Dell 30" ultra sharp
Keyboard
Blackwidow
Mouse
RAT 9
Mouse
Gaming Pad
Audio
2.1 sound
Audio
G930 head set
CPU
Intel i7 3930K
Motherboard
Intel DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G-Skill
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus DVD
Power Supply
1250W
Cooling
Water Cooled
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H2OQPower
Operating System
Win7
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Asus
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