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ok so these will be the two 240mm radiators in the chill box to keep the box cool. a HWL black ice nemesis GTX and a alpha cool UT60.

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OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
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9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
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19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
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6 X water pumps
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post #62 of 102 (permalink) Old 01-07-2019, 03:59 PM
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I would still be looking at running larger TECs at roughly half voltage vs maxing out smaller ones. Seems like you are repeating the same things that didn't work well in the last version...

You are dumping insane amounts of heat into the hot side for marginally better cold side, which snowballs everything pretty quickly and a hotter hot side temp will raise the cold side by a similar amount.

I might be reading wrong though, I've been drinking lol.


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Quote: Originally Posted by Puck View Post
I would still be looking at running larger TECs at roughly half voltage vs maxing out smaller ones. Seems like you are repeating the same things that didn't work well in the last version...

You are dumping insane amounts of heat into the hot side for marginally better cold side, which snowballs everything pretty quickly and a hotter hot side temp will raise the cold side by a similar amount.

I might be reading wrong though, I've been drinking lol.

well your are right maxing out smaller TEC's produces a lot of heat, but they do stack well for handling larger amounts of load wattage. these two 240mm radiators, will be on the cold side water loop, because one 240mm radiator is only good for about 200+ watts of heat, before the radiator becomes overwhelmed. so I am adding a second radiator inside the chill box, this way they could handle 400watts of heat being generated inside the chill box with ease.


all I am waiting on is the water cool reservoir for the cold side water loop once that arrives I will get a lot done really quick. so lots of great pics to come.


the first motherboard I place in the chill box will most likely have a air cooled video card with a water cooled CPU to start. this way I can see if the radiators can handle the radiated heat from that video card. if they can not handle the radiated heat produced by a air cooled video card. I will put a water block on the video card.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
Keyboard
microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
Windows 7
Monitor
Dell 30" ultra sharp
Keyboard
Blackwidow
Mouse
RAT 9
Mouse
Gaming Pad
Audio
2.1 sound
Audio
G930 head set
CPU
Intel i7 3930K
Motherboard
Intel DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G-Skill
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus DVD
Power Supply
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Water Cooled
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H2OQPower
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post #64 of 102 (permalink) Old 01-09-2019, 04:57 PM - Thread Starter
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https://imgur.com/a/och6B05

yea it's here.

this is my supervisor lucky, nothing gets done without him checking it out first.
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ok so now it's built the way I want.
ok so why did I need this reservoir? well at -18C, plexiglass becomes brittle, and can crack with prolonged exposure to such cold temperatures.
https://imgur.com/a/SzfSOWZ

ok so, this way you can see what I am doing. when this is done it will be completely covered in two layers of foam and a layer of clay.

ok so I covered most of the reservoir with two layers of foam and a layer of clay. I did this now because it may had been to difficult or maybe impossible to do this later.
https://imgur.com/a/xpAV5OV



ok so I have one hot water loop and the cold water loop completed. all I have left is the second water loop then I will test all three of them. I will not be testing all the TEC's until I have both layers of foam insulation and a layer of clay over the entire cold side water loop.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
Keyboard
microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
Windows 7
Monitor
Dell 30" ultra sharp
Keyboard
Blackwidow
Mouse
RAT 9
Mouse
Gaming Pad
Audio
2.1 sound
Audio
G930 head set
CPU
Intel i7 3930K
Motherboard
Intel DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G-Skill
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus DVD
Power Supply
1250W
Cooling
Water Cooled
Case
H2OQPower
Operating System
Win7
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Asus
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It's been fun following this build. I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering: How much are you into this thing for?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Veltri View Post
It's been fun following this build. I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering: How much are you into this thing for?

about $7000 total with the chill box and computer inside, or about $5000 in just cooling. now, I have spent about $2000 in failed experiments and needed upgrades. so actually about $9000 with all of that cost added in.
https://imgur.com/a/wpwZUNo



now remember that I started with almost $4000 in parts right from the beginning.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
Keyboard
microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
Windows 7
Monitor
Dell 30" ultra sharp
Keyboard
Blackwidow
Mouse
RAT 9
Mouse
Gaming Pad
Audio
2.1 sound
Audio
G930 head set
CPU
Intel i7 3930K
Motherboard
Intel DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G-Skill
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus DVD
Power Supply
1250W
Cooling
Water Cooled
Case
H2OQPower
Operating System
Win7
Monitor
Asus
Keyboard
Razer
Mouse
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Wow, that's some serious coinage. I noticed that you've used a lot of off-the-shelf parts. If you started from scratch again would you have some parts like waterblocks and radiators custom made and larger so they are fewer in number? Maybe fewer but larger pumps? Maybe go with copper pipe and use soldered joints? With so many rotary fittings, are you worried about failures? Did you consider phase change before deciding on TECs?

Sorry for the wall of questions. Very interested.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Veltri View Post
Wow, that's some serious coinage. I noticed that you've used a lot of off-the-shelf parts. If you started from scratch again would you have some parts like waterblocks and radiators custom made and larger so they are fewer in number? Maybe fewer but larger pumps? Maybe go with copper pipe and use soldered joints? With so many rotary fittings, are you worried about failures? Did you consider phase change before deciding on TECs?

Sorry for the wall of questions. Very interested.

well I have a small phase change system that I spent about $1600 on for the CPU only. it is a case with a A/C unit in the bottom of the case. so I did consider phase change and I like the penguin industrial 3.5 ton water chillers. this time, I wanted something to tinker with, while I did not expect it to grow to this size, I am happy with the build in general. I would like to get some nice larger custom made water blocks for the hot side of the TEC's, but the cold side seems fine with standard CPU water blocks. as for radiators I have twelve 360mm radiators on this build now, and I am planning to add a additional four 480mm radiators to this build to cool three of the 331watt TEC's at 26.4volts. currently I only have enough radiators to run the 331 TEC's at 19 volts, or at about half voltage. as for pumps the hot side seems fine with normal D5 pumps. I have a D5 strong at 24 volts on the cold side water loop, along with two other normal D5 pumps because that loops slows down as the coolant gets cold. I did try to do copper pipe with this build, but I really suck at that. so this is the reason for all the fittings and soft norprene tubing being used.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
Keyboard
microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
Windows 7
Monitor
Dell 30" ultra sharp
Keyboard
Blackwidow
Mouse
RAT 9
Mouse
Gaming Pad
Audio
2.1 sound
Audio
G930 head set
CPU
Intel i7 3930K
Motherboard
Intel DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G-Skill
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus DVD
Power Supply
1250W
Cooling
Water Cooled
Case
H2OQPower
Operating System
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Razer
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Did you ever consider buying a small milling machine? You could definitely save some money if you built your own waterblocks.

I definitely understand why you passed on the copper pipe. It can be a nightmare.
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Did you ever consider buying a small milling machine? You could definitely save some money if you built your own waterblocks.

I definitely understand why you passed on the copper pipe. It can be a nightmare.

the funny part to this question, is that years ago, I had a small 24" CNC. I sold that when I stopped doing mechanical engineering, and went back to school for electrical engineering. foxrenza I think, I may have spelled that wrong, but he makes some nice large custom water blocks for $300 each, and that is a reasonable price for the size of water block you are getting.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/rigbu...tle=AMD+AM3%2B
AMD AM3+
(13 items)
TEC Power
(21 items)
CPU
FX9590
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth 990FX
GPU
GTX580
RAM
Samsung 1600
Hard Drive
Intel 520 SSD 120Gigs
Optical Drive
DVD
Power Supply
Enermax 1350
Cooling
water cooled
Monitor
Asus 27"
Keyboard
microsoft ergo
Mouse
RAT 9
Mousepad
steel series
Audio
ZX 7
CPU
3930K
Motherboard
DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G skill 2133Mhz
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus
Power Supply
OCZ 1250W, TT 600W, PowerMax 4 X 500W
Cooling
9 X TEC's 250W 15A 24V
Cooling
Standard Water cooling to cool the TEC's 6 X 360mm radiators
Cooling
19 X CPU water blocks
Cooling
2 X GTX580 GPU water blocks
Cooling
6 X water pumps
Cooling
3 X CPU air coolers
Case
Coustom PC case inside a vacuum chamber
Operating System
Windows 7
Monitor
Dell 30" ultra sharp
Keyboard
Blackwidow
Mouse
RAT 9
Mouse
Gaming Pad
Audio
2.1 sound
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G930 head set
CPU
Intel i7 3930K
Motherboard
Intel DX79SR
GPU
GTX580
RAM
G-Skill
Hard Drive
Intel 3700
Optical Drive
Asus DVD
Power Supply
1250W
Cooling
Water Cooled
Case
H2OQPower
Operating System
Win7
Monitor
Asus
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Razer
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