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New build AMD ryzen 7 2700x Gaming-streaming-videoedit

Hi I chose to post here and not post same info in both air cooling and water cooling sections so thought I'd post here because I'm still undecided between going with air cooling or water cooling for my new build. I appreciate the professional help. PCpartpicker build---> https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Stolly76/saved/XpbvWZ


Just wanted to post up my new build that I've started collecting since a month ago. Only parts left that I'm in doubt with are the cooling side of things.

Case fans and Cpu cooler to be exact. I've got a list so far from yesterday as I am doing my research before i make my final decision.

I don't want to make a mistake with this as it's an important part for my build to compliment my case. I'm wanting to overclock the 2700x to 4.2 (4.3 if lucky, but not worried if i can't) 500mhz jump up from 3.7 is decent enough for me.

I know fellow members that have the same cpu and motherboard as me on overclock.net are running their system at 4.2 atm. Bios updates have been helping with board.

I would have picked an Intel system like I planned originally if the board wasn't stable from researching. I've been waiting over a year for the price drop of it too. It was too expensive to begin with.

I don't believe it should have been a $300 US board back in 2017. Here are the following case fans and cpu coolers for cooling options. Please let me know what are the decent picks for me to narrow down with!

Also to note that I'm going with a monochrome theme white-black. Blue and white as my led lighting. (but not over the top with it) and I've also never done a build with water cooling before.

Thanks in advance,

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CPU air coolers :

CRYORIG R1 Universal https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/.../R1_Universal/

Phanteks PH-TC14PE CPU Cooler Black Edition https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...-black-edition

White edition https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...-white-edition (i like the look of the black edition better it has a balance of both)

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CPU water coolers:

CRYORIG A40 and A80 Series Hybrid Liquid Cooler http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/cry...id_cooler.html

Enermax LIQFusion 240 RGB https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...oler,5612.html

Enermax LIQFUSION RGB 360 https://www.vortez.net/articles_page..._review,1.html

Corsair Hydro H100i RGB PLATINUM SE Liquid CPU Cooler - White https://www.centrecom.com.au/corsair...u-cooler-white

Fractal Design Celsius S24 Liquid CPU Cooler https://www.pccasegear.com/products/...uid-cpu-cooler (or maybe the S36 version which is a 360mm aio)

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Case fans: wanting to replace rear and possibly another 2 x 120/140mm fans to replace the silverstone fans from case (can have 6-7 fans total depending on what choice I use for cpu cooler)

Corsair ML140 PRO LED 140mm Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan White
https://www.mwave.com.au/product/cor...-white-ab84660

SilverStone FG141 140mm RGB LED Fan Grille (these are already in front of case x3-thinking about getting one for rear) https://www.mwave.com.au/product/sil...grille-ac09440

Corsair ML140 140mm Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan - Twin Pack

https://2141-1.sli-r.com/rd/1/?e=WG1...kaUfBp7n8kXWZg

Corsair Air Series AF140 LED Quiet Edition Airflow 140mm Fan White

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/cor...-white-ab52963

(con is only 2 years warranty compared to 5 years for the others)

Corsair Air Series AF120 LED Quiet Edition Airflow 120mm Fan White

https://www.mwave.com.au/product/cor...-white-ab52447 (con is only 2 years warranty compared to 5 years for the others)

Corsair ML120 120mm Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan - Twin Pack https://www.mwave.com.au/product/cor...n-pack-ab84653 (can also buy packs of 4 for $74)

Corsair LL120 SE Dual Light Loop RGB LED 120mm PWM Fan (only 2 years warranty) https://www.mwave.com.au/product/cor...wm-fan-ac20772

Looks only go well with the 240mm aio H100i, but also is costly compared to other options with 5 years warranties.

Corsair LL120 SE Dual Light Loop RGB LED 120mm PWM Fan - 3 Pack with Controller

https://2141-1.sli-r.com/rd/1/?e=WG1...nzExYtJphTtxsA

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Here is the rest of my parts I've collected for my new build: Feel free to constructively criticise anything (I'm not perfect with building- I try to be)

Cpu: Ryzen 7 2700x brand new $391AU 31/3 @ Computer Alliance

Motherboard: MSI x370 Xpower Gaming Titanium (ryzen 7 2700x support) brand new $176AU 31/3 @ MSY Technology

Memory: Patriot Viper DDR4 RGB 3200MHz (white) 32gb (4 x 8) RAM (MB supports it) brand new $393AU 30/3 @ 1 kit from Amazon Australia and 2nd kit Ebay online store

Videocard: Asus Strix ROG 1080ti used (just under 2 yrs warranty left with original paperwork) $600au 17/3 @ gumtree sale local

Storage: Patriot Viper VPN100 M.2-2280 1TB PCI Express 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive up to 3450mb/s read 3000mb/s write 4k IOPS read and write 600k brand new $267.29 discounted voucher 6/4 @ CCL Computers

Brand New Seagate Barracuda 8TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive $265AU 8/4 @ Nux Trading to be boosted up with Intel Optane Memory 32gb m2 $54AU 8/4 @ Scorptech

BRAND NEW Seagate Game Drive Hub 3.5E 8TB USB3.0 (as a backup drive for the barracuda drive) Helpful with streaming and videoediting. $202.50AU 13/4 @ Digitaltech

2TB Samsung 2.5" 860 QVO SATA 6Gb/s SSD PN MZ-76Q2T0BW $305.10AU 8/4 @ Computer Alliance

1TB Samsung 2.5" 860 EVO SATA 6Gb/s SSD PN MZ-76E1T0BW $188.10AU 8/4 @ Computer Alliance

Samsung 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 SATA III SSD $180AU 8/4 @ Gumtree sale local (1 month old paperwork included)

Powersupply: Brand new Corsair RM1000i Full Modular 1000W Gold ATX Power Supply PSU White $189.60AU 28/3 @ Techmall

Case: https://www.umart.com.au/Silverstone...SU_44976G.html $201AU 26/3 @ Umart

Monitor: SAMSUNG H850 31.5" UHD(16:9) VA LED, 3840X2160, 4MS, HDMI, $609.96AU 12/3 @ Centre Com (got bang for buck with this to use for couple of years and plan to buy either

Asus ROG Swift PG27UQ or Acer Predator X27 (each $2,000 on Newegg) and buy for cheaper and the HDR tech along with RTX tech.

It should be at its peak by then so I'll pair up one of those screens with 2 x 2080ti SLI and possibly either whatever is best out of Intel Ice comet lake tech or AMD ryzen zen2 tech.

External Bluray burner: Pioneer External Slim Blu-ray Burner CD DVD Writer USB 3 Portable PC BDR-XD05TB $122.40AU 8/4 @ Digitaltech

Cost so far excluding cpu cooler and case fans = $4144.95

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My last build that I'm using now was back in 2016 (bang for buck 1080p gaming $1650 build) Had saved up some money since then for this year.

Originally planned for an Intel i5 9600k or i7 9700k with Gigabyte Aorus Ultra z390, but I would if it was strictly gaming only so the ryzen option made more sense for gaming plus stream and videoedit.

I appreciate anyone's time to comment here and I'll be patiently waiting as I plan to build the system start of May once I get the final cooling and case fan parts ordered etc

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Here is something to read that might or might not help you
https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...lc-cooler.html

By the way you dont need a 1000 watt PSU for that build its massive overkill and a even 650 watt would be more than enough power
Also note that the motherboard you picked might not work with a 2700x out of the box and might require a BIOS update

Another notes is the GPU is nowhere near powerful enough for the monitor you want and if you will be using the PC as a gaming rig and nothing else you can drop the NVME drive

There are lots of things in your build that can be better balanced
Last dont bother with SLI its a waste of time and money and the support in newer games pretty much does not exist and you are much better off with a single GPU

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
Here is something to read that might or might not help you
https://www.overclock.net/forum/61-w...lc-cooler.html

By the way you dont need a 1000 watt PSU for that build its massive overkill and a even 650 watt would be more than enough power
Also note that the motherboard you picked might not work with a 2700x out of the box and might require a BIOS update

Another notes is the GPU is nowhere near powerful enough for the monitor you want and if you will be using the PC as a gaming rig and nothing else you can drop the NVME drive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCDQaE9N-eo

There are lots of things in your build that can be better balanced
Last dont bother with SLI its a waste of time and money and the support in newer games pretty much does not exist and you are much better off with a single GPU

Okay thank you Shilka for the link. I got the 1000w psu corsair because of the overclocking side of things and also for the future plan of 2 x 2080ti cards. Yeah it's possible what you're saying is true about the SLI. Only time i've used sli in the past was with 2 x evga gtx 660 cards 2014-2016. I do have an evga 650 watt psu from 2016 as backup in my 2016 1080 build.

1006 bios for the board adds support for the 2700x ryzen (sometime last year I believe) I waited a year for price of board to drop down as I believe it wasn't worth $300 us and wanted to see if it would get support for the 2700x. I did have plans for an intel build if it didn't.

Oh I forgot to mention my new build is for Gaming-streaming-videoedit (says in title)

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I had a GTX 970 SLI setup and it was awful in many of the newest games at the time
It was often slightly slower than a single card which meant that turning SLI off in the driver actually gave me slightly higher FPS in some games so i had SLI turned off more than on

The support has only gotten much worse to the point its close to not existing anymore so buying a second card for SLI is such a waste of money that you might as well light a bundle of bills on fire its about as useful so stick with a single card, you also get way less heat in the case so there is that as well

Have you considered the Asus PG279Q instead? its less than half the price of the PG27UQ and it takes a lot less GPU power to drive 1440P 165 hz then it does to power 4K 144hz
1440P is still 80% more pixels than 1080P

A single RTX 2080 Ti would be more than powerful enough for 1440P 100+ FPS gaming so that might actually end up being a better experience for you at a far lower cost

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Yeah well atm I'm just using my Samsung UH850 31.5" monitor for a few years. Paid $600 bucks for it. My1080ti (cost $600) card is running games well on it at 4k. I'm limited to 60hz, but atleast in future I can wait for the better monitors and even the the Asus PG279Q to drop down bit more if I feel the need to stick to 1440p. I don't feel I've wasted money on getting a bang for buck 4k 60 hz samsung screen as I am using it for Playstation pro also so i will be keeping it for that when I get the newer monitor that's better for pc. I miss my 120+ monitors, but happy to wait for a bit.


Just wanted to add I'm really enjoying the link about the coolers and still reading it as I'm replying here.


Here's something you might like to read that I had added as a bookmark from a month ago:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...80_SLI_NVLink/


Let me know what you think!

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Yeah well atm I'm just using my Samsung UH850 31.5" monitor for a few years. Paid $600 bucks for it. My1080ti (cost $600) card is running games well on it at 4k. I'm limited to 60hz, but atleast in future I can wait for the better monitors and even the the Asus PG279Q to drop down bit more if I feel the need to stick to 1440p. I don't feel I've wasted money on getting a bang for buck 4k 60 hz samsung screen as I am using it for Playstation pro also so i will be keeping it for that when I get the newer monitor that's better for pc. I miss my 120+ monitors, but happy to wait for a bit.


Just wanted to add I'm really enjoying the link about the coolers and still reading it as I'm replying here.


Here's something you might like to read that I had added as a bookmark from a month ago:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...80_SLI_NVLink/

Let me know what you think!
From what i understood from that review is support is hit or miss it depends on what games you play
Some was way faster in SLI others where slower so it has not gotten better than when i used it

If all the games you play works with SLI great but if any game you play dont then it sucks
I dont think its worth it personally but its your system

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Okay thank you Shilka for the link. I got the 1000w psu corsair because of the overclocking side of things and also for the future plan of 2 x 2080ti cards.
Oh I forgot to mention my new build is for Gaming-streaming-videoedit (says in title)
I'm running a 9900k @5.0ghz with 2080ti custom pcb oc'ed to ~2100mhz and the total power draw at the plug peaks at around 450W~460W during full gaming load of that 450w, 2080ti can consume up to around~350w... so for the current build you have going, I would imagine 1000W is an overkill for a single video card at any level of video cards..

On a second note... I know 2080Tis are way overpriced, but if you're planning for 2x 2080ti, why not start with a single 2080ti, not a 1080ti? I do see that you got a 1080ti strix before price started shooting up / stocks running out, but seeing your build list, I'm sure you can squeeze out from the budget for a 2080ti. single 1080ti is likely nowhere near enough for 4k 60hz for many games (on higher settings) but that would depend on what kind games you play.. If you're playing non-AAA titles, sure.

Aside from the potential future proofing for 2x 2080ti, as your build list stands, I would save a bit of money from the monitor for a higher refresh rate 1440p panel and a lower PSU, and invest that saving into good watercooling?

just my two cents.

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Op, just wait a few more weeks and the Ryzen 3000 and X570/550 boards will be out. If you can't, then get this motherboard . . .

MSI B450 TOMAHAWK AMD B450/4xDDR4/2xPCIEx16/HDMI/DP/USB3.1 (Gen2) Type-AC/ATX Motherboard

either at MSY or Mwave. Should work better for the 7nm CPUs.

For the RAM, I recommend this . . .

https://www.umart.com.au/G-Skill-16G...2V_38508G.html

Try a single 2080Ti first.


BTW, the 2700X comes with a good cooler. Try it first before deciding on a different cooler. If you don't like it, then sell it.

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
From what i understood from that review is support is hit or miss it depends on what games you play
Some was way faster in SLI others where slower so it has not gotten better than when i used it

If all the games you play works with SLI great but if any game you play dont then it sucks
I dont think its worth it personally but its your system

If all the games you play works with SLI great but if any game you play dont then it sucks
I dont think its worth it personally but its your system[/QUOTE]
Yeah I'm not really playing the newest AAA. Trying to catch up with older AAA lol. I'm slowly getting through them. By the time 2 years passes I should have caught up by then and probably won't be worth getting an SLI setup with newer games. I most likely will stick to single card and get the 1440p monitor.
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I'm running a 9900k @5.0ghz with 2080ti custom pcb oc'ed to ~2100mhz and the total power draw at the plug peaks at around 450W~460W during full gaming load of that 450w, 2080ti can consume up to around~350w... so for the current build you have going, I would imagine 1000W is an overkill for a single video card at any level of video cards..

On a second note... I know 2080Tis are way overpriced, but if you're planning for 2x 2080ti, why not start with a single 2080ti, not a 1080ti? I do see that you got a 1080ti strix before price started shooting up / stocks running out, but seeing your build list, I'm sure you can squeeze out from the budget for a 2080ti. single 1080ti is likely nowhere near enough for 4k 60hz for many games (on higher settings) but that would depend on what kind games you play.. If you're playing non-AAA titles, sure.

Aside from the potential future proofing for 2x 2080ti, as your build list stands, I would save a bit of money from the monitor for a higher refresh rate 1440p panel and a lower PSU, and invest that saving into good watercooling?

just my two cents.

Yeah playing titles from 2016 atm. Trying to get through them. I had couple of years not playing so catching up. Which 2080ti did you end up getting? I'm only used to air cooling so trying to figure out what I want to do whether air cooling oc or water custom oc. Reading up about it all in the air and water sections still.


Quote: Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post
Op, just wait a few more weeks and the Ryzen 3000 and X570/550 boards will be out. If you can't, then get this motherboard . . .

MSI B450 TOMAHAWK AMD B450/4xDDR4/2xPCIEx16/HDMI/DP/USB3.1 (Gen2) Type-AC/ATX Motherboard

either at MSY or Mwave. Should work better for the 7nm CPUs.

For the RAM, I recommend this . . .

https://www.umart.com.au/G-Skill-16G...2V_38508G.html

Try a single 2080Ti first.


BTW, the 2700X comes with a good cooler. Try it first before deciding on a different cooler. If you don't like it, then sell it.
Thanks will look them up and try the stock cooler first for 2700x.
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