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The Volcanic Island 2.0 GPUs coming in the second half of this year will be using HBM 1st gen. Pirate Islands will be using HBM 1st gen, and Pirate Islands 2.0 will be using HBM 2nd gen.





It will be a joint effort between AMD, SK Hynix, GlobalFoundries, Open Silicon, and Amkor.

4 x HBM Gen 1 = 4 GB
3 x HBM Gen 1 = 3 GB
2 x HBM Gen 1 = 2 GB
1 x HBM Gen 1 = 1 GB

4 x HBM Gen 2 = 8 GB/16 GB/32 GB
3 x HBM Gen 2 = 6 GB/12 GB/24 GB
2 x HBM Gen 2 = 4 GB/8 GB/16 GB
1 x HBM Gen 2 = 2 GB/4 GB/8 GB

Edit(May 12): HBM Gen 2 numbers are fixed.

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Cant wait! Question is. Pirate Islands 1.0 or 2.0. That is the question.
VI 2.0: 2014
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Cant wait! Question is. Pirate Islands 1.0 or 2.0. That is the question.
VI 2.0: 2014
PI 1.0: 2015
PI 2.0: 2016

Your upgrade pathing awaits your decision.
Will VI 2.0 just be basically updated Hawaii or will we see some mid range parts?

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Will VI 2.0 just be basically updated Hawaii or will we see some mid range parts?
VI 2.0 will be an enhanced Volcanic Islands architecture, with new ACE units and more focus on compute shaders, etc. It will also be the first GPUs for AMD to support HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.3.
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But I just got a 290X!
I think AMD's approach for this one is the opposite of previous generations. It will be mid-range first then the high-end range. The 290X will be okay till the end of 1H 2015.

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28nm TSMC Q4 2013 : High-end GPU, VI 1.0
28nm GlobalFoundries Q4 2014 : Mid-end GPU and Low-end GPU, VI 2.0
28nm GlobalFoundries Q2 2015 : High-end GPU, VI 2.0
20nm GlobalFoundries Q4 2015 : Mid-end GPU and Low-end GPU, PI 1.0
20nm GlobalFoundries Q2 2016 : High-end GPU, PI 1.0
14nm GlobalFoundries Q4 2016 : Mid-GPU and Low-GPU, PI 2.0
14nm GlobalFoundries Q2 2017 : High-GPU, PI 2.0

There also might not be a significant enhancement between Hawaii and the next high-end GPU.

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So r 4xx series will be using stacked dram?then 2015?and the high end chips like pirate islands 2.0 would be a different naming?because bermuda is the equivalent od r9 280x?
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R(x) 3(xx) will be using HBM 1st Gen.
R(x) 4(xx) will be using HBM 1st Gen.
R(x) 5(xx) will be using HBM 2nd Gen.

No nomenclature changes.

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I dont think that amd will split pirate islands in2 when nvidia will be releasing 2 different architrctures
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I dont think that amd will split pirate islands in2 when nvidia will be releasing 2 different architrctures
It's aggressive node hopping;

Volcanic Islands 1.0 - 28nm TSMC
Volcanic Islands 2.0 - 28nm GlobalFoundries
Pirate Islands 1.0 - 20nm GlobalFoundries
Pirate Islands 2.0 - 14nm GlobalFoundries

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