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post #7361 of 7919 (permalink) Old 02-27-2019, 10:57 AM
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P7 on Vega 64 is a "max boost" which only runs at that speed for a minute or a few seconds. I've found a way to bug it to run at P7 sustained by flashing the FE bios and back to the XTX bios but the next reboot it runs normally again. When I get the card to run at P7 @ stock core clock 1750/1105Mhz it scores a GPU score around 27700 in FireStrike while when it's not bugged at running P7 all the time it scores 27.2k. Same as the Radeon VII P8 is a max boost and it rarely runs at that speed on Windows.

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I'm on water and i can hit between p6 and p7 constantly without issues and i can hit p7 sustained in ets2 in demanding areas especially playing it in multi player. It will stay there for a good while as well. This is on a stock BIOS with nothing changed except HBM at 1050.

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post #7362 of 7919 (permalink) Old 02-27-2019, 11:53 AM
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I'm on water and i can hit between p6 and p7 constantly without issues and i can hit p7 sustained in ets2 in demanding areas especially playing it in multi player. It will stay there for a good while as well. This is on a stock BIOS with nothing changed except HBM at 1050.
I've never been able to "sustain" P7 without bugging it. It will run between P6-P7 1700Mhz-1730Mhz but will never run at 1750Mhz all the time without bugging the bios unless it's power usage is 49% or below the target limit. For example benchmarks like GeekBench, GPUPI, Blender and other task that don't use a lot of power.

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i managed to make these settings in this week and i find them stable so far but i cannot reach more than 1540mhz without extra voltage

would you guide me to make it better ?
hbcc is on at 16gb total dedicated memory

profile 1 for best performance so far 4447 points in superposition 1080p extreme custom fan curve and undervolted


profile 2 same under-volt settings but power limit set to -30% to keep it well under 130w usage i am using for 2017 demanding games to keep my pc cool & quite like Assassins Creed Origins at ultra high settings 1080p i am getting about 60fps average

profile 2 stock fan curve and zero fan mode on gets 3459 on 1080p extreme


for comparison , stock settings net about 186w with 4000 points

note : i will never use my vega for mining , i just like it quite !
if you can help me achieve better undervolting for now i would appreciate it

question : does flashing My Vega to 64 revoke my warranty ?

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ps : i sometimes oc my cpu to 3.8ghz @ 1.368v which gives a nice boost in performance but i am currently trying the xmp memory profile
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I've never been able to "sustain" P7 without bugging it. It will run between P6-P7 1700Mhz-1730Mhz but will never run at 1750Mhz all the time without bugging the bios unless it's power usage is 49% or below the target limit. For example benchmarks like GeekBench, GPUPI, Blender and other task that don't use a lot of power.
I'm playing some Frostpunk right now and can sustain a good 1620ish on stock BIOS and stock power limit as well. I'm assuming the VRMs and HBM are well cooled so it's not a problem. 42°/47° respectively. Ambient is around 26°C water temp around 36°C, demanding game.

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This is inaccurate. You can hit that P7 speed assuming your cooling/wattage/voltage lets you. I have my P7 set at 1687 and it will easily hit it playing BFV 1440P max settings. Same with benching. If I set it over 1687 though, such as 1692, it over boosts to 1737+ and crashes my drivers. No idea how to fix that though. Maybe powerplay mods could help me with that.
Try to lower the Power slider -> 0%, 5%, 8%, 12% & max 25% is recomended if you don't have PMod and PSU at min. 1000W (75A-83A)

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post #7366 of 7919 (permalink) Old 02-27-2019, 03:04 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by VicsPC View Post
I'm playing some Frostpunk right now and can sustain a good 1620ish on stock BIOS and stock power limit as well. I'm assuming the VRMs and HBM are well cooled so it's not a problem. 42°/47° respectively. Ambient is around 26°C water temp around 36°C, demanding game.
Are you using a LC bios or Air bios? Not sure what kind of card you have. My card is a liquid card that I installed an EK waterblock because the AIO is garbage. Just using the stock bios without undervolting the card runs at around 1680Mhz and with a 50mV undervolt (1200mV) it runs between 1700-1730Mhz. From all the videos I've seen people on air required an UV/OC +50% power limit to run between 1580-1620Mhz on the air bios since the stock power limit is 220w and 330w with +50%.

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Are you using a LC bios or Air bios? Not sure what kind of card you have. My card is a liquid card that I installed an EK waterblock because the AIO is garbage. Just using the stock bios without undervolting the card runs at around 1680Mhz and with a 50mV undervolt (1200mV) it runs between 1700-1730Mhz. From all the videos I've seen people on air required an UV/OC +50% power limit to run between 1580-1620Mhz on the air bios since the stock power limit is 220w and 330w with +50%.
Reference card i bought on day one, sapphire haven't touched the bios or the voltages lol. I have a 360/240 in push pull with high static pressure fans. Playing Frostpunk depending on what im looking at on a fully loaded city it goes from 1550-1620 and stays around there. In Euro Truck Simulator 2 in multiplayer on some congested areas ive seen it hit 1642 and stay there as well. Ek block on mine as well, when playing Siege im at a steady 1560-1580 maxed out settings and uncapped. I have a freesync display so i cap my fps at 73fps, even capped Frostpunk uses 8gb of vram and maxes out core and hbm no problem. My card is mounted vertically with 3 140mm intake fans right above it ( Core X5 case), my hotspot temps never go past 70°C it's usually low 60s so I'm assuming i can hit higher clocks then most people on air bios on water.

P.S. That's in a room at about 25°C case temp with no windows open so no airflow, cooler temps my core and hbm stay at or below 40°C.

Took a quick shot of hwinfo, left Frostpunk running for 10mins and reset the measurements 5mins in to get a 5min average. Temps go a bit higher after 15-20mins. Left the camera in one spot without moving it.


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here's a random question... my card's still under warranty... gigabyte confirmed this, just not in my region... how does this happen and how can I tell where exactly it's under warranty at? Although, I'm thinking I figured out the problem... turns out that if I close hwinfo... it doesn't crash.... or at least it hasn't in over a week now...



This card does have the memory bug though... I have to set the min memory speed to 500mhz or it'll randomly crash at idle... google did me a solid and pointed out that one.

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This is inaccurate. You can hit that P7 speed assuming your cooling/wattage/voltage lets you. I have my P7 set at 1687 and it will easily hit it playing BFV 1440P max settings. Same with benching. If I set it over 1687 though, such as 1692, it over boosts to 1737+ and crashes my drivers. No idea how to fix that though. Maybe powerplay mods could help me with that.
I also have this issue (I think it's boosting to that same 1737, but close regardless) when I push the frequency above 1690. I'm currently using powerplay tables to allow +150% offset for power and having this issue with the slider maxed out. If you find a fix for this, I would love to know, because I'm not hitting thermal (~50 C with ~75 C hotspot) or power limits (reporting around 310 W in software), my card just spikes in frequency and the driver crashes.

I wonder if flashing the liquid bios would fix that problem...

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I lost my mind last week and ordered two msi radeon vega 56 air boost cards as they where on sale at £250 each to replace my ageing gigabyte radeon r9 280 crossfire.
after doing some research I found that two vega 56's would be comparable to a 1070/2070 sli rig, I used game debate for this info, and after testing bf 1 seems they well over estimate the performance.
I got issues with the monitoring of the gpu's, I have msi afterburner installed and ran fallout 4 in crossfire mode, I got two times 300mhz while running it, which made me realise that the cards are doing nothing much running this.
I tried the game again and got one gpu running at 300mhz and the other is saying its doing 1150mhz, I tested with one card and it give me 30mhz for one and 1150 for the other.
the temps when its running 300/1150mhz crossfire say the cards are hot the other way round and that the watt's are the same.

im confused as to why it doing this and wonder is there a monitor that works please?

do you think I should keep the cards please?
I read about crossfire/mgpu being left to dev's to add in if they think its a good idea, which is not promising, but the performance for the price has got me hooked.
my cpu now is totally lagging as I have a ryzen 1700 which is just no putting out the frames. I intend to upgrade to a ryzen 3600 at 4.8 when it comes out to power it.
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