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post #7381 of 7573 (permalink) Old 03-06-2019, 12:59 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
First you have to understand that Vega 10/20 cards are advertised to run at their second power state all the time while the "peak boost" is their highest power state which is 1750Mhz on the Vega 64. The throttling temp is 65C on the liquid bios. The LC bios advertised speed is 1668Mhz so if you are getting higher than 1668Mhz than you are exceeding the advertised frequency.

I've only found 1 way to bug it to run P7 all the time without fluctuations and the performance gain is massive and it's only temporary. The reason the cards can't run at P7 all the time is since they will use 364w all the time even when undervolted which the AIO wasn't designed for. As you can see from my video the card is running at 1800Mhz @ 1.25v with a single 360mm rad and it's at 46c with the Gentle Typhoon fans @ 2250RPM. Same goes for the Air cooled version, it wasn't designed to run at 330w all the time.

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So you are running 1800 on the AIO? How long can you hold it for? Reckon it will sustain 1800 with upped power limits and cooler temps like say a custom block? Can you set P6 to = P7 or does there have to be a difference between the two? I am. So excited for my Vega. I really hope I can hit 1800 in my loop.

My loop is 360mm with Jetflo's in P/P and a 280mm with Corsair ML140s in P/P. All hooked up to a Lamptron controller. Fury's maintain 45C each underload at 1150MHz. I reckon the single Vega should hit about 40s maybe less even with OC considering the lower heat load in the loop?

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So you are running 1800 on the AIO? How long can you hold it for? Reckon it will sustain 1800 with upped power limits and cooler temps like say a custom block? Can you set P6 to = P7 or does there have to be a difference between the two? I am. So excited for my Vega. I really hope I can hit 1800 in my loop.

My loop is 360mm with Jetflo's in P/P and a 280mm with Corsair ML140s in P/P. All hooked up to a Lamptron controller. Fury's maintain 45C each underload at 1150MHz. I reckon the single Vega should hit about 40s maybe less even with OC considering the lower heat load in the loop?
My Vega 64 was in a custom loop with a single 360mm with an EK copper waterblock. This 1800Mhz is stable 24/7 but this is a bug when flashing back from the FE 8GB bios for some odd reason it runs at P7 all the time until the next reboot. I am able to replicate the bug 100% of the time. Don't expect to ever touch this frequency, you'll most likely see 1700-1730Mhz all the time.

I guess I wasn't clear on what I said, Vega 10 will never run P7 100% of the time since the stock air/AIO weren't designed for that high of a TDP. Unfortunately there isn't a way to get it to run at P7 all the time after reboots.

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Are you actually on water with the 64? Or are you just running the water BIOS on air?

I'm sorry, yes I am running water cooled using a Heatkiller water block. Gpu and HBM stay in the 40's while the hot spot reaches mid to high 50's



Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
First you have to understand that Vega 10/20 cards are advertised to run at their second highest power state all the time while the "peak boost" is their highest power state which is 1750Mhz on the Vega 64. The throttling temp is 65C on the liquid bios. The LC bios advertised speed is 1668Mhz so if you are getting higher than 1668Mhz than you are exceeding the advertised frequency.
Thank you for the clarification on the throttling temp. I think on air its 80 or 85 correct?

Also I've tried keying in P7 clocks and voltage into P6 so its the same (think I've tried all the way down to P2) and it doesn't seem to do anything on my rig. Something about AMD's GPU boost algorithm that just says NO. I've also noticed sometimes you achieve higher clocks if you don't touch anything but power limit vs putting in your own values for everything. Then also when you bump up the HBM clocks it affects core clocks and drops them some. Guessing its a power limit thing.

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Guys. I know people on OCN don't really use Bykski or Barrow water cooling products. But XSPC and EKWB is all anyone stocks in South Africa and well noone has ANYTHING for vega. I would love an EKWB block for my VEga like I have on my Fury's but all anyone ever stocks in South Africa are water parts for Nvidia. Heck some retailers still have Geforce 900 series stuff and one even 8800 series water parts. But not a Vega block to be seen. Importing a EKWB block for 150 dollars excl shipping and customs is going to be a hard pill to swallow. But I can get a Bykski or Barrow block for 100US. 90US once I use my Aliexpress coupon..... So between the Barrow Vega block and the Bykski which would you pick? I am leaning towards the Barrow. I have heard more about Barrow in recent years and Bykski to me is a new name so not sure what to expect.

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Bykski has been around for as long as Barrow I believe.

Pick whichever is aesthetically best to you. I highly doubtful their performance is more that a couple of degrees from each other.( Highly doubt they're more than 3-5C from EK either)

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Bykski has been around for as long as Barrow I believe.

Pick whichever is aesthetically best to you. I highly doubtful their performance is more that a couple of degrees from each other.( Highly doubt they're more than 3-5C from EK either)
Went for the Barrow. Looking at the picture the waterblock had better channels on the VRM section. So went for the Barrow.

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Its here!

And man it is heavy! I did not realize the entire cooler shroud was metal as well. It is plastic on my RX480. I figured it was the same on V64. I am certainly impressed. Got a molded die on mine. Kinda disappointing I was hoping for a unmolded die. I am used to unmolded dies as that is obviously what Fiji has and I figured unmolded would be a tad bit cooler. Oh well. Now I just need to wait for my water block to arrive.
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I have an Asus Strix Vega 64 graphics card.
I would like to run the Undervolt process to lower the GPU temperature a little further and gain some performance. Can you help me with this?

I did an operation myself. My values are:

P6: 1000Mv
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Hi everyone.

I have an Asus Strix Vega 64 graphics card.
I would like to run the Undervolt process to lower the GPU temperature a little further and gain some performance. Can you help me with this?

I did an operation myself. My values are:

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Set power limit to 50% then start undervolting from there.

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