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post #7571 of 7628 (permalink) Old 05-24-2019, 06:52 AM
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Apparently it's installed to /Program Files (x86)/Common Files/

You can check to see where it is on your PC.

It looks like BattleEye also had crashing issues during the "Insider" release for 1903, but this was resolved.
Yup i have it installed there without issues, only game that uses it for me is Siege but updated without any issues. Haven't seen it crash in Siege but that game has crazy lag and frame rate drop for me all of a sudden.

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Many people reporting that BattlEye has been causing the upgrade error for 1903.

Need to check that later, gpu is currently out for new thermal paste.
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Yup i have it installed there without issues, only game that uses it for me is Siege but updated without any issues. Haven't seen it crash in Siege but that game has crazy lag and frame rate drop for me all of a sudden.
Well, I have Siege and BattleEye installed on my OS SSD and I have none of these issues. Upgrading to 1903 even fixed a weird issue I had with Afterburner, where it would just shut down when I opened Siege, so I had to Alt+Tab out of Siege and restart it, otherwise my fan curve wouldn't apply and my card would quickly reach 80C due to it being overclocked. Granted, I'm not using a Vega card, but I don't think there should be a difference regarding this.

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Well, I have Siege and BattleEye installed on my OS SSD and I have none of these issues. Upgrading to 1903 even fixed a weird issue I had with Afterburner, where it would just shut down when I opened Siege, so I had to Alt+Tab out of Siege and restart it, otherwise my fan curve wouldn't apply and my card would quickly reach 80C due to it being overclocked. Granted, I'm not using a Vega card, but I don't think there should be a difference regarding this.
I have the same issue with ab and siege. I just launch siege then launch afterburner anyways, ill try it now and see if it did fix it.

Edit: Yup seems fixed for me as well.

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I replaced the TIM and thermal pads on my reference Vega 64 for Thermal Grizzly stuff. This is my totally unscientific back of a cigarette box before/after data, tested on BFV on toughest graphical map (Twisted Steel) at roughly same ambient temps:

Stock TIM/thermal pads:

Max GPU Diode: 68c (Average: 59.6c)
Max GPU Hotspot: 83c (Average: 74.8c)
Max GPU Memory: 75c (Average: 67.3c)

With TG Kryonaut + TG Minus Pad 8:

Max GPU Diode: 62c (Average: 54.4c)
Max GPU Hotspot: 81c (Average: 70.5c)
Max GPU Memory: 68c (Average: 61c)

So, there was a decent drop across the board, give or take a bit for variations in my totally not scientific testing. However, hotspot remains relatively high which what I was aiming to reduce.

Thoughts? I don't have enough stuff left to reseat and I think perhaps that is just the limitation of the chips heatspreader and there isn't much more TIM can do (in terms of high hot spot). Then again, perhaps I am over stating how bad the temps are?


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Thats a very good improvement, though I would have gone with a benchmark for a more reliable load to compare. The changes in memory and average gpu temps are significant.

Those are good hotspot numbers. All you can do is attempt to reapply the paste repeatedly until you find a lucky fit, but it's not likely.

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Thats a very good improvement, though I would have gone with a benchmark for a more reliable load to compare.

Those are good hotspot numbers. All you can do is attempt to reapply the paste repeatedly until you find a lucky fit, but it's not likely.
Thanks for confirming. I suppose I didn't really know what to expect. So, if that is good, i'm happy. You're right, benchmark figures probably would have been better, but it was a bit of a spur of the moment thing as summer temps dawn!

I think i'll leave it as is, taking it apart again would probably mean requiring more thermal pads since they tend to rip... and with no guarentee hot spot would get better. It's likely just the limit of the chip heatspreader.

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Thats a very good improvement, though I would have gone with a benchmark for a more reliable load to compare. The changes in memory and average gpu temps are significant.

Those are good hotspot numbers. All you can do is attempt to reapply the paste repeatedly until you find a lucky fit, but it's not likely.
That might help but case airflow will help hotspot temps way more. Mine reaches around 60°C or so on water with ambient of around 23°C. Id love to try dif pads and see what i can get temps down too, i think next time i refill my loop i might give it a go.

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That might help but case airflow will help hotspot temps way more. Mine reaches around 60°C or so on water with ambient of around 23°C. Id love to try dif pads and see what i can get temps down too, i think next time i refill my loop i might give it a go.
That would make sense. I'm using a really old Corsair 800d case which has pretty poor air cooling capability. It only has a single intake from the bottom.

Also, regarding Windows 1903, deleting BattlEye from services and Common Files fixed it and I was able to upgrade without an issue.

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That might help but case airflow will help hotspot temps way more. Mine reaches around 60°C or so on water with ambient of around 23°C. Id love to try dif pads and see what i can get temps down too, i think next time i refill my loop i might give it a go.
I had similar temps under water (probably faster heat transfer and overall lower temps surrounding the hot spots) but once I swapped back to the reference cooler my hot spot temps were getting back to 80-90. Re-applying paste would vary it a bit but I absolutely cannot get those numbers to come down anymore without undervolting. This is in a corsair 900D with enough fan power to make it levitate . I've seen so many people with hot spots reporting over 100-110C and nothing they could do besides undervolt would fix it, maybe it's caused by variations in the HBM height on those cards without the resin leveling it all out.. who knows.

I'm sure 80C hot spots are nothing to worry about though, just saying these temps are on the good side of normal for air cooled.

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Hi guys.

I applied Under Voltage to my video card. I was using it smoothly. But my card is no longer responding to UV. I can't maintain stability when I change P6, P7 and HBM settings.

My settings were as follows;

P6 1450Mhz / 960Mv
P7 1550Mhz / 1050Mv
HBM 945Mhz / 960Mv
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I have used these values for months. I had no problems. But now my card is not stable. In the Valley test, the GPU speed drops to 1200Mhz.
My HBM Memory speed is fixed to 945 Mhz and sometimes falls to 800 MHz.
What should I do for a stable UV value?

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My card is running smoothly in Power Saving, Balanced or Turbo modes in Radeon settings.
My goal is to maintain speed and reduce voltages.

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