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post #11 of 1650 (permalink) Old 01-10-2019, 01:53 PM
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What is the basis of the TimeSpy GPU Scores in the OP? They seem a bit too high AFAIK.

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What is the basis of the TimeSpy GPU Scores in the OP? They seem a bit too high AFAIK.
 
Results are taken directly from the 3DMark Online Results Browser, the average of a dozen results for each card, taken below the top to exclude the water cooled and LN2 results. So they are overclocked results.

We do know from multiple official AMD performance slides that the VII is very close to the RTX 2080, if not faster in DX12, which Time Spy runs (and there is no reason to doubt the numbers). So putting it at at 12000 (without a specific number in text) for the time being is accurate enough. The point is to show the flagships performance from AMD and Nvidia, how they compete with each other.

I found it interesting that it previously took AMD a year or more to release a direct competitor card to X card from NVIDIA, this time though the difference is only 4 months.
 

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So, why is CEO of nVidia saying that the Vega VII performance is laughable, and lousy?

It looks strong to me thus far.

I did however buy a Titan XP Galactic empire, being impatient for the same price.

I may still grab one or two of these. For testing, price inflation, resale purposes.
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Even as an avid AMD user I can see his take. It's new process vs old, IIRC 7nm vs 12nm. Basically new process allowed clocks gains, etc, keeping power usage same as last gen. Nvidia still more efficient even on older process.

Initially I did not go VEGA at launch, I felt it was overpriced and lacking performance. I tried a GTX 1080, yeah thing OC'd like a bitach, hit my loop way less than VEGA IMO, but not having VRR (as was not gonna pay G-Sync tax) was a big PITA, the driver panel was reminiscent of when I owned a GTX 8800 >.< .

So later when I saw a deal on VEGA, I sold GTX 1080. Yeah it consumes more power, hits loop harder, but I'm enjoying the use of FreeSync and better driver panel.

I reckon nVidia allowing FreeSync monitors is a grab at owners that may reel G-Sync tax, it could have kept a defector like me away from VEGA at that time, as I had an ASUS MG278Q.
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So, why is CEO of nVidia saying that the Vega VII performance is laughable, and lousy?
Perhaps he's cranky because his company's stock lost 50% of its value in the past 2 months and has a class action lawsuit against it for misleading investors.

Seriously though, Vega VII is not the failure the community is making it out to be, at least on paper. In gaming it's good(not great), but in productivity it's a beast. Those OpenCL gains are gigantic and the card will certainly find a place in the systems of those users, especially with 16gb of HBM2. Also, Ryan Smith from Anandtech is reporting that FP64 is fully intact which means the card has nearly the double precision performance at the Titan V at 1/4 the cost.
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I’m not that impressed with nVidia’s latest generation turning. Sure, it is fast but so was the last gen.

If you go look at the RTX Titan, the fastest video card on the block, but it cost $2,500 bucks. On a custom loop, with water block, and overclocked to the max it is 22% faster than a air cooled overclocked Titan XP.
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I’m not that impressed with nVidia’s latest generation turning. Sure, it is fast but so was the last gen.

If you go look at the RTX Titan, the fastest video card on the block, but it cost $2,500 bucks. On a custom loop, with water block, and overclocked to the max it is 22% faster than a air cooled overclocked Titan XP.
That card is targeted at researchers who need more memory not ECC memory. It even supports NVLink memory pooling for an effective 48GBs of usable memory which only Quadros/Teslas support. That card isn't targeted at gamers and at the price it isn't worth it for gaming. If Vega II actually has full double precision performance it's a bargain and I'll pick one up.

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I’m not that impressed with nVidia’s latest generation turning. Sure, it is fast but so was the last gen.

If you go look at the RTX Titan, the fastest video card on the block, but it cost $2,500 bucks. On a custom loop, with water block, and overclocked to the max it is 22% faster than a air cooled overclocked Titan XP.
That card is targeted at researchers who need more memory not ECC memory. It even supports NVLink memory pooling for an effective 48GBs of usable memory which only Quadros/Teslas support. That card isn't targeted at gamers and at the price it isn't worth it for gaming. If Vega II actually has full double precision performance it's a bargain and I'll pick one up.
It’s a great card, I’m not doubting that. It is awesome. I’ll buy one in a year or two most likely when they are a little less cost. It is great how long video cards last.

I like using vram, with texture mods and things like that in fallout 4, KDC, GTA. So, 8GB is gone fast.

BF1 at 4K without AA can easily eat all 8GB of vram, and begin to micro studder when the level loads in background fog. Maybe AMD will offer a larger 16GB version of VII.
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