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If I beat a 4770k in benchmarks, I'm pretty sure I'll be okay with a 2070.

I would LOVE to see where you saw a 2070 fall below 60 in ANY game on Ultra 1080

Did I achieve nothing? If I can play Resident Evil 2 REMAKE on Ultra at 1080p while the wife makes dinner, it would make the $600 all worth it. The 380s were getting old and outdated anyway, and needed an upgrade.
I wasted money when I waterblocked my 380Xs too, they're not even O/Cable, I did it for noise and just because I have a cool waterloop.

I may end up just using this 2070 for now, until I retire this AMD rig, and slap a Navi or RX in there and give it to one of the kids.

We'll see what kind of numbers I'm getting, and if it's a bottlenecked mess that doesn't hit 60 in EVERYTHING at 1080 Ultra, I'll upgrade to Ryzen, but I don't see that happening.


From here:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreview...perature-noise

That said, this is also paired with a 8086k at 5ghz using 3200mhz DDR4.

Do you really think your FX is going to put out these numbers? And I don't know about you, but under 40fps for min frame is kind of falling below 60fps. It's already borderline at keeping above 60fps on most games as is. I'm not talking averages, I'm talking where it counts, your lowest fps.

Let's also look at the RT results of a RTX2080ti which as I'm sure you know since you own a $1500 one, is quite a bit faster than a 2070.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1749...ng-benchmarks/

Again, good luck with RT on a 2070 when a 2080ti can't maintain 50fps at 1080p

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Where did you see anything about me having a GTX 1080? Anything I say that says 1080 in it is referring to 1080p resolution, not the card.
see here:

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No warranty, Navi is coming in July, and it doesn't have PhysX or Hairworks or 3D Vision, which means the good old 1080 will have to go back in
Makes sense now that you clarified it - kind of.


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Quote: Originally Posted by SoloCamo View Post


From here:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreview...perature-noise

That said, this is also paired with a 8086k at 5ghz using 3200mhz DDR4.

Do you really think your FX is going to put out these numbers? And I don't know about you, but under 40fps for min frame is kind of falling below 60fps.

Let's also look at the RT results of a RTX2080ti which as I'm sure you know since you own a $1500 one, is quite a bit faster than a 2070.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1749...ng-benchmarks/

Again, good luck with RT on a 2070 when a 2080ti can't maintain 50fps at 1080p



see here:

I meant 1050, that was a typo. I used a 1050 as a dedicated PhysX card with my Dual 380s

That GamersNexus chart shows a 2070 averaging 136 FPS Hahaha, where is it below 60? On 4k!? I have my computer upstairs with the 2080ti for 4K HDR gaming. This one is MOSTLY for 1080p Ultra, and light 4K/3D gaming.

RT on the 2070, when done on LOW is fine. I'm not expecting it to run Ultra RT. RT was simply an ADDITION that helped push me toward the 2070 that the Vega 64 doesn't offer.
Also, the 2070 beat the 64 in a lot of benchmarks I saw, so there's that too.

Even a NEW Vega 64 was $420, plus a waterblock puts me RIGHT around what I paid for the 2070 with waterblock. I literally paid $50 more for a better card (The waterblock was a given with either card)

In the end, it was between this:

$420 for a used Vega 64 with waterblock (No warranty)
$420 + $145 for a NEW Vega 64 with waterblock (From Sapphire, so waterblock voids the warranty)
$469 + $145 for a NEW RTX 2070 with waterblock (From EVGA, so waterblock doesn't void my 3 year warranty)

After mulling it over in my head, I really wanted the 2070, and the ONLY thing holding me back was that it's going in an AMD themed case *slaps forehead and prays to Lisa Su for forgiveness*

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Quote: Originally Posted by KingUniverse View Post
I meant 1050, that was a typo. I used a 1050 as a dedicated PhysX card with my Dual 380s

That GamersNexus chart shows a 2070 averaging 136 FPS Hahaha, where is it below 60? On 4k!? I have my computer upstairs with the 2080ti for 4K HDR gaming. This one is MOSTLY for 1080p Ultra, and light 4K/3D gaming.

RT on the 2070, when done on LOW is fine. I'm not expecting it to run Ultra RT. RT was simply an ADDITION that helped push me toward the 2070 that the Vega 64 doesn't offer.
Also, the 2070 beat the 64 in a lot of benchmarks I saw, so there's that too.

Even a NEW Vega 64 was $420, plus a waterblock puts me RIGHT around what I paid for the 2070 with waterblock. I literally paid $50 more for a better card (The waterblock was a given with either card)

In the end, it was between this:

$420 for a used Vega 64 with waterblock (No warranty)
$420 + $145 for a NEW Vega 64 with waterblock (From Sapphire, so waterblock voids the warranty)
$469 + $145 for a NEW RTX 2070 with waterblock (From EVGA, so waterblock doesn't void my 3 year warranty)

After mulling it over in my head, I really wanted the 2070, and the ONLY thing holding me back was that it's going in an AMD themed case *slaps forehead and prays to Lisa Su for forgiveness*
The goal posts keep shifting. It clearly nosedives for the min fps.

Regardless, enough of this. I'm glad you are happy with your decision and wish you the best of luck with your build.


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Quote: Originally Posted by SoloCamo View Post
The goal posts keep shifting. It clearly nosedives for the min fps.

Regardless, enough of this. I'm glad you are happy with your decision and wish you the best of luck with your build.

Thanks!

Again, if it turns out to be a bottlenecked mess, then I'll upgrade to Ryzen. I'm not too stubborn to admit when I'm wrong, but I love my 8350 and I spent A LOT to get her to 5.1 (Expensive loop, 3 mobo upgrades to feed her, and tons of case/socket mods) so I'm reluctant to admit she was dead when I bought her and I'm hesitant to admit that she might need to be retired. This 2070 may be the push that gets me to make the jump to AM4.

Anyway, have a great rest of your week, and if this thread is still up, I'll update with stats when it gets here
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Quote: Originally Posted by KingUniverse View Post
Thanks!

Again, if it turns out to be a bottlenecked mess, then I'll upgrade to Ryzen. I'm not too stubborn to admit when I'm wrong, but I love my 8350 and I spent A LOT to get her to 5.1 (Expensive loop, 3 mobo upgrades to feed her, and tons of case/socket mods) so I'm reluctant to admit she was dead when I bought her and I'm hesitant to admit that she might need to be retired. This 2070 may be the push that gets me to make the jump to AM4.

Anyway, have a great rest of your week, and if this thread is still up, I'll update with stats when it gets here
I have a ryzen right now, but looking at these potential future chips has me gettin the upgrade bug. https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3000-...-9-3850x-leak/

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You could also just swap out the i7 you have with your 2080 Ti with a new chip and then take that 4790k and throw it into the build with the 2070. That would probably be the best bet for your use case. Even then though, 1080p will still prove to bottleneck the 2070 paired with a 4000 series. That's just the nature of old processors and more CPU demanding resolutions.

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Quote: Originally Posted by SoloCamo View Post
https://www.techspot.com/review/1749...ng-benchmarks/

Again, good luck with RT on a 2070 when a 2080ti can't maintain 50fps at 1080p
Of course you provide a link with the release of Battlefield V. How about the patch that improved performance?

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming...racing-tested/

Let's look at another title with DxR. Looks playable to me with DxR enabled on the 2070.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3...mment=10011494
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Of course you provide a link with the release of Battlefield V. How about the patch that improved performance?

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming...racing-tested/

Let's look at another title with DxR. Looks playable to me with DxR enabled on the 2070.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3...mment=10011494
I haven't kept up on it as much as I should have but regardless, in your very own link a RTX2080 over the course of 3 runs averages 66.7fps at RT on LOW. The 2080 is considerably faster than a 2070. They are also using a TR 1920x which I'd say falls in the realm of a bit faster than a FX especially with RT on.

In the Metro bench you linked they are using a 6c12t 8086k at 5ghz so you've got to use basic logic here and realize there is no chance that a FX @ 5ghz is going to be near those numbers with RT on paired with a RTX2070. At 63fps MIN it's already on the border of easily dipping below 60 and that's again, with a ridiculously faster cpu feeding it.

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Thanks!

Again, if it turns out to be a bottlenecked mess, then I'll upgrade to Ryzen. I'm not too stubborn to admit when I'm wrong, but I love my 8350 and I spent A LOT to get her to 5.1 (Expensive loop, 3 mobo upgrades to feed her, and tons of case/socket mods) so I'm reluctant to admit she was dead when I bought her and I'm hesitant to admit that she might need to be retired. This 2070 may be the push that gets me to make the jump to AM4.

Anyway, have a great rest of your week, and if this thread is still up, I'll update with stats when it gets here
You as well, thanks. I look forward to the results as I've still got my 9590 sitting around.


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Didn't they say RTX perfomance wasn't great initially (BF5) so they offloaded every possible task to the CPU? This should be hilarious on an FX chip when you consider how much Frostbite already put on the CPU.
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The Vega 64 might be worth the extra money.

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