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Cega 64: LC or Nitro+?

Bought a used Gigabyte Vega 64 LC. At the sane time, i have a sapphire nitro+ coming in the mail today. Price should be the same after selling the game codes. Both have binned chips. One is new, other is more limited edition?(LC)

Im leaning towards the LC due to looking awesome and possibly quieter. Also, will be much less of a hassle just rmaing the nitro back to newegg.

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I doubt the LC will be quieter because the Nitro+ has fans running 1400-1500RPM or so.


https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...ro,5388-8.html


https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...ng,5177-2.html
"We start with a small radiator and one fan. Using Turbo mode in AMD's driver results in a power consumption of approximately 316W throughout the test scene, and the thermal outcome is barely acceptable. If we drop the fan speed to 1000 RPM or less, then we find ourselves beyond the 60°C mark. There's just no way to enjoy cool temps and quiet acoustics with this configuration." --- this isn't LC but a copper radiator with copper block (Alphacool Eiswolf).

https://lanoc.org/review/video-cards...cooled?start=8
100% Fan speed = 3300RPM , so you'd need 50% fan speed or less and the review states that at 50% fan speed it's louder than quite a few cards including Nvidia's GTX 1080 FE.

"For fan noise, this is a rather unique setup as both the pump and fans are a noise concern. Though when I did my testing it was surprisingly quiet at both high and mid fan speeds. The fan speed chart only shows the pump speed though, I think the 120mm fan on the radiator was running lower to get those numbers. It should be noted though that later in my testing our pump did start to develop a rattle."


https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi.../Noise-Efficie
^ another review with Vega64 liquid louder than GTX 1080 FE

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I'd personally use the Nitro or get a reference card that you can slap a fat AIO onto. You'll get much better temps and noise levels with that solution than you would with the LC.

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Just a FYI. With the 19xxxx drivers my Nitro fans stop at 1500rpm and temps are high. This is why I'm staying with the 18.12.1.1 drivers so the fans can get to 3500rpm and much cooler temps. Some might not like the noise tho.

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You spelled the name of the thread Cega 64 so assume that was a typo

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Quote: Originally Posted by bl1tzk1213g View Post
Bought a used Gigabyte Vega 64 LC. At the sane time, i have a sapphire nitro+ coming in the mail today. Price should be the same after selling the game codes. Both have binned chips. One is new, other is more limited edition?(LC)

Im leaning towards the LC due to looking awesome and possibly quieter. Also, will be much less of a hassle just rmaing the nitro back to newegg.

Id still like to hear what you guys think.


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How do you even sell the game codes? Last time I bought a card that came with a "free" game the code was non-transferable and tied to my email address. And no way it's actually worth $50-60 for each game when the games have been out for a while and feature microtransactions. I refuse to support microtransaction/lootbox junk so I ignore the "feee" games when comparing offers, and never redeemed the codes.
I also heard they subtract the "value" of the games if you ever need to RMA the hardware.



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How do you even sell the game codes? Last time I bought a card that came with a "free" game the code was non-transferable and tied to my email address. And no way it's actually worth $50-60 for each game when the games have been out for a while and feature microtransactions. I refuse to support microtransaction/lootbox junk so I ignore the "feee" games when comparing offers, and never redeemed the codes.

I also heard they subtract the "value" of the games if you ever need to RMA the hardware.



There is a way from what i’ve heard. $50-60 tota for three games. They will subtract the value of the games if you RMA with the graphics card used. So if I return it new, you get the full price back.


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Unless the Nitro card is the "LE" model (3 x 8pins, RGB fan shroud and not just backplate) and not the standard "SR", it is not binned.

The Nitro will be quieter, but the LC card will have a factory binned chip and should maintain clocks that are quite a bit higher than the Nitro card. I have owned the Nitro, Red Devil, Strix, Reference air, and the LC card. I compared all the air cooled cards here in this video. My LC card runs about 60-75mhz faster than the Nitro here. The Strix was one of the cards affected by the VRM cooling issue and its performance reflects that in this vid. That card was throttling due to VRM temps.


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IMO Vega XTX is best choice

Just stick with Default Fan speed in WattMan (Max is 69%, usually i have ~45-50% and is non audiable much)
Temps & noise is -more than- acceptable (50-60deg. cels. is max i saw, HotSpot Max was ~70deg. with hefty OC)

Besides 1120HBM2 at 937mV
and 1672MHz at 1.087v is NP for this GPU at all.

Gaming in BFV, SotTR, FC5 etc. Temps never surpass 50-60 GPU/HBM and 65deg. HotSpot


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@ The EX1, there's only one VEGA 64 Nitro. I think you're confusing the Pulse with Nitro. All Vega 64 Nitro cards are 3x 8 pin.


AFAIK there isn't a Sapphire Vega 64 Pulse, only reference and LC.


Given LC has the same power limit of 264W I'd attribute it to silicon lottery: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/...64-8176-170719 , https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/...64-8176-171205

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