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Low fps with 5700 xt

Windows 10 pro, intel i7 4770k stock clock 3.5-3.7hz, gskill ddr3 2400hz - 16 gigs 2 sticks(single channel), asus 5700 xt rog strix(performance mode), pny cs1300 ssd. mobo is slightly defective, 1 ram slot doesn't work.

I am getting 100-150 average on low settings on apex legends at 1080p. highs im reaching 200+ sometimes. I checked gpucheck reported frames with my card is supposed to be about 200 fps on low setting apex legends at 1080p average. That's with a more recent cpu however. im getting 110 frames minimum on some parts of the map and really high like 200 frames on other parts of the map. why am I not getting 200 fps average all the time with this card. Why am I dipping to low 100's.

is the cpu a bottleneck, I couldn't initialize rtss with this card nor afterburner. should I consider getting an ryzen 5 3600 to get higher frames. or is the 4770k enough.

The mobo might be limiting the oc potential with this cpu so I ordered a gigabyte z97 hd3, so whats the verdict.

I bought this mobo to oc the cpu to 4+ ghz. will that make any significant difference.

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I would say running the CPU stock is part of it and the single channel part of it as well. With a good mobo and cooling solution you should be able to use that combo for a few more years

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Windows 10 pro, intel i7 4770k stock clock 3.5-3.7hz, gskill ddr3 2400hz - 16 gigs 2 sticks(single channel), asus 5700 xt rog strix(performance mode), pny cs1300 ssd. mobo is slightly defective, 1 ram slot doesn't work.

I am getting 100-150 average on low settings on apex legends at 1080p. highs im reaching 200+ sometimes. I checked gpucheck reported frames with my card is supposed to be about 200 fps on low setting apex legends at 1080p average. That's with a more recent cpu however. im getting 110 frames minimum on some parts of the map and really high like 200 frames on other parts of the map. why am I not getting 200 fps average all the time with this card. Why am I dipping to low 100's.

is the cpu a bottleneck, I couldn't initialize rtss with this card nor afterburner. should I consider getting an ryzen 5 3600 to get higher frames. or is the 4770k enough.

The mobo might be limiting the oc potential with this cpu so I ordered a gigabyte z97 hd3, so whats the verdict.

I bought this mobo to oc the cpu to 4+ ghz. will that make any significant difference.
Don't you dare say that I just got the RX 5700 XT. JK.

Stock CPU is a problem - overclock it to 4.5. It should do that. I was tempted to pair the card with my 4770K @ 4.5GHz and it would have done well but opted to try the new Zen 7 3700X (its been six years).

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Because you run single Channel ram. Don't you have 4 DIMMs to fix your issue?

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Because you run single Channel ram. Don't you have 4 DIMMs to fix your issue?
I looked it up and there is not much there. Of course Dual Channel would be better. He could do both RAM and CPU. At this stage though if you're going to get RAM and a mobo so you can better OC the CPU, go new stuff.

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It's a very obvious CPU bottleneck, but the single channel memory is interesting. Either way, this CPU is about to be 7 years old, It's showing it's age. I can't find many Apex Legends benchmarks to confirm or deny that you're falling into the realm of average, but I certainly wouldn't expect to be getting close to say a 5ghz 9700k... See video below

If you rewind to 2014-2015 when this CPU was on the top end, benches were done comparing single to dual channel in games showing almost no difference at all afaik (just checked a bench on gamers nexus). However, It's very possible the games done in such benches were GPU limited due to being run at 1080P and now we're opening a new can of worms...

Personally, I have a feeling you're mostly held back by running that CPU at stock clocks regardless of the single channel memory, it shouldn't be too hard to get 4.6-4.7ghz out of it if you have decent cooling -- you didn't mention what cooler is on there. That alone can be a 10-20+% bump in frame rates unless the lower memory bandwidth is an issue. That still won't get you anywhere close to 200 fps average though.


This video was done to cover the 2600k, but you can see the 4790k (should be about exact same result as a 4.4ghz 4770k) struggling to keep up against modern CPUs. Just so you can get an idea.

I definitely would have gone with the ryzen 3600 over replacing the board, but when money is tight it's tight..

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I don't think the 4770K should suffer that much once a respectable OC is applied. Intel really has only had one IPC upgrade since then (Skylake) and everything else has been rehashes (8700K, 9900K, etc.) The main advantage of those chips is their clocks - 9900K runs all cores at 4.7 stock (MCE on) and OCs to 5ghz easily. 4770K at 4.5-4.7 should do well.

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ugh the motherboard is defective, im running 2 sticks ddr3 at 2400hz 16gigs single channel because there is a broken ram slot.

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If I get it past 4ghz. what kind of performance increase will I obtain? how many frames increase can I expect? im aiming for 200+ frames. I just tested bf5 im getting 90-100 frames. thanks for your reply.

the new gigabyte mobo's shipping from china. it'll take 2-4 weeks to arrive. ill run some more tests to see what I can do in the meantime. my msi pcmate z97 doesn't overclock well. couldn't even get the 4770k to 3.9 stable. that's odd considering its my friends cpu and he traded it to me and he got it 4.3 stable. so i'll bump this thread to keep it live. thanks again.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Gunderman456 View Post
Don't you dare say that I just got the RX 5700 XT. JK.

Stock CPU is a problem - overclock it to 4.5. It should do that. I was tempted to pair the card with my 4770K @ 4.5GHz and it would have done well but opted to try the new Zen 7 3700X (its been six years).
Did you try the 5700 xt with the 4770k? what were your frames for each pairing- (4770k w/ 5700xt) (3600 w/ 5700xt)

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