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Interesting that you can only manage a few points higher then my 5700 non-xt fully overclocked. Seems like a lot of people end up around 5500 points with the XT overclocked.

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Interesting that you can only manage a few points higher then my 5700 non-xt fully overclocked. Seems like a lot of people end up around 5500 points with the XT overclocked.
That wouldn't suprise me. This OS install I have is going on 4 years old and the install /uninstall and update crude is beginning to pile up. Need to do a complete fresh install but everything works the way I want and is still zippy enough for my taste.

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Been dialing in the overclock on the new B&H XFX 5700 and it is looking very promising compared to the old card.

Seems to be rock stable at 2125core, 1850mem, 1200mv, +90% power. Netting me 5277 in superposition extreme.

I can get 2150 to work for a benchmark but gets unstable under some conditions, with a voltage boost I could do it but not worth it.

The old card maxed out at 2025 core @ 1200mv.

The really interesting thing is what the new card can do when I step down a little. Looks like I can step down to 1100mv and maintain 2050 stable for a score of 5100. A nice 40-50w savings for a mere ~4-5% performance loss. Fans don't even get above 1600rpm and I could limit them to less if I wanted.

EDIT, did some more testing and looks like ~1100mv is the sweet spot for this card, going down to 1000mv only netted mild gains in efficiency vs performance. Got a score of 4845 with a 1925 core clock at 1000mv. Nice for low end games but not really worth the tradeoff for higher end gaming.

Might see if I can go any lower but doubt I would actually use it. Overall very happy with the performance and results. Overclocking this card is much more as expected compared to the old one that would randomly crash, that card lost the silicon lottery for sure lol.
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Also as a general note about the fans not kicking on correctly on many different Navi cards with the new drivers.

The fix for this is to use morepowertool and raise the PWM minimum.

In my cards case a setting of 35% fixes the issue vs the default of 15%. This should work for other cards as well, just play with the exact number.

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When you took the cooler's plastic shroud off did it require removing screws? In gamersnexus's thicc ii teardown it seemed to require removing screws from the inside of the shroud.
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Yes, it is screwed in place just like gamers nexus video showed. Really not that hard to remove at all. You don't even *have* to replace the thermal paste to get most of the benefits, at first I tried it without repasting due to laziness, I just spread out the existing paste. It still had a big effect on cooling performance.

Naturally new paste is best, after that it dropped about 20c.

In it's current setup it never breaks 1600rpm the hottest temps I have seen are mid-high 70's core at max overclock. I could limit the fans to even less if I wanted but just no need.

With what looks to be my go to overclock of 1100mv / 2025core it hardly even breaks 70c @ 1600rpm.

VERY happy with this new card, the last one lost the silicon lottery for sure. Also possible they are binning the chips better now and sending the lower binned ones to the 5600xt.

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Yes, it is screwed in place just like gamers nexus video showed. Really not that hard to remove at all. You don't even *have* to replace the thermal paste to get most of the benefits, at first I tried it without repasting due to laziness, I just spread out the existing paste. It still had a big effect on cooling performance.

Naturally new paste is best, after that it dropped about 20c.

In it's current setup it never breaks 1600rpm the hottest temps I have seen are mid-high 70's core at max overclock. I could limit the fans to even less if I wanted but just no need.

With what looks to be my go to overclock of 1100mv / 2025core it hardly even breaks 70c @ 1600rpm.

VERY happy with this new card, the last one lost the silicon lottery for sure. Also possible they are binning the chips better now and sending the lower binned ones to the 5600xt.

How was it before you replaced the thermal pads? Got any pics on what the default pads look like on the cooler?

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How was it before you replaced the thermal pads? Got any pics on what the default pads look like on the cooler?
Paste, not pads. The thermal pads for the Vram and VRM cooling are fine and do not need to be replaced.

The GPU die itself uses thermal paste, using the stock paste the temps dropped around 10c IIRC after removing the plastic, that jumped to ~20C when I replaced the paste with the stuff that came with a CPU cooler I had laying around. It is best to replace it, grab a tube for $5 or so if you don't already have some, doesn't have to be fancy paste, just needs to be non-conductive.

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Yes, it is screwed in place just like gamers nexus video showed. Really not that hard to remove at all. You don't even *have* to replace the thermal paste to get most of the benefits, at first I tried it without repasting due to laziness, I just spread out the existing paste. It still had a big effect on cooling performance.

Naturally new paste is best, after that it dropped about 20c.

In it's current setup it never breaks 1600rpm the hottest temps I have seen are mid-high 70's core at max overclock. I could limit the fans to even less if I wanted but just no need.

With what looks to be my go to overclock of 1100mv / 2025core it hardly even breaks 70c @ 1600rpm.

VERY happy with this new card, the last one lost the silicon lottery for sure. Also possible they are binning the chips better now and sending the lower binned ones to the 5600xt.

Gotcha, thanks for the reply. I was concerned about voiding the warranty due to the illegal warranty void if removed stickers but I guess I already flashed the BIOS for the xt version which also voids it.

Speaking of which, is that overclock of 1100mv / 2025core with the xt or non xt bios? I'm having black screens and fan issues (somewhat fixed by your 15%-35% trick) with the xt but not non-xt bios.
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Yeah, the screw warranty sticker does not matter, it is illegal and they have said they do not enforce it in the USA.

I am running with the XT bios. Might try bumping the fans up to 40% if they are still not kicking on at boot every time.

You could just have lost the silicon lottery like my first card that could only reach 2025 with 1200mv.

I am thinking that they are binning the cores better now and sending low binned cores to the 5600xt.

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