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post #21 of 67 (permalink) Old 01-29-2020, 09:56 AM
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Yeah, the screw warranty sticker does not matter, it is illegal and they have said they do not enforce it in the USA.

I am running with the XT bios. Might try bumping the fans up to 40% if they are still not kicking on at boot every time.

You could just have lost the silicon lottery like my first card that could only reach 2025 with 1200mv.

I am thinking that they are binning the cores better now and sending low binned cores to the 5600xt.
It's possible, I just bought it last weekend though. I'm getting 2174 core, 1200mV with the radeon auto oc and it is stable besides the monitor/black screen issues but it seems like an issue for AMD drivers more than my card. Without the xt it auto oc-ed to 1980 and I could manually oc to get 2000 stable in Heaven. The black screens for me SEEMED to be caused by the fans not running and the card getting very hot. I'll try bumping the min fan up like you suggested since going to 35% helped.
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I find most "driver issues" when overclocked boil down to overclocking issues in my experiance as they almost always go away if I reduce the overclock.

Although if the fans are not kicking on at boot (you can see if this is the issue if the driver reports they are running at ~60k rpm at boot) then that very well could be your problem.

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Been dialing in the overclock on the new B&H XFX 5700 and it is looking very promising compared to the old card.

Seems to be rock stable at 2125core, 1850mem, 1200mv, +90% power. Netting me 5277 in superposition extreme.

I can get 2150 to work for a benchmark but gets unstable under some conditions, with a voltage boost I could do it but not worth it.

The old card maxed out at 2025 core @ 1200mv.

The really interesting thing is what the new card can do when I step down a little. Looks like I can step down to 1100mv and maintain 2050 stable for a score of 5100. A nice 40-50w savings for a mere ~4-5% performance loss. Fans don't even get above 1600rpm and I could limit them to less if I wanted.

EDIT, did some more testing and looks like ~1100mv is the sweet spot for this card, going down to 1000mv only netted mild gains in efficiency vs performance. Got a score of 4845 with a 1925 core clock at 1000mv. Nice for low end games but not really worth the tradeoff for higher end gaming.

Might see if I can go any lower but doubt I would actually use it. Overall very happy with the performance and results. Overclocking this card is much more as expected compared to the old one that would randomly crash, that card lost the silicon lottery for sure lol.
Thanks for pushing me in the right direction. Probably if I had a real Ultra card I could get closer to 6000
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5500 sounds about right for an XT on air from what I have seen. Good work!

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Hey, Texas, can you post some photos of the card with top and bottom/side shrouds removed? Curious to see if it still looks decent. I just got the DD Ultra, and I might just tear it off right away.

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5500 sounds about right for an XT on air from what I have seen. Good work!
Thanks. As you have took the card apart is removing the cooler and reapplying thermal paste worth the effort or is the factory job ok?

Thinking I at or close to the max. All this was achieved in AMD software.
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Thanks. As you have took the card apart is removing the cooler and reapplying thermal paste worth the effort or is the factory job ok?
The thermal paste alone made almost no difference, the plastic is what really makes a difference. Honestly I basically never notice improvements with replacing thermal paste on new products.

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Hey, Texas, can you post some photos of the card with top and bottom/side shrouds removed? Curious to see if it still looks decent. I just got the DD Ultra, and I might just tear it off right away.
VERY bad picture but it looks fine to me, just able to see the heatsink which I think looks good.
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VERY bad picture but it looks fine to me, just able to see the heatsink which I think looks good.
That doesn't look too bad. It fits the theme with your hefty cpu cooler imo.

Mine is vertically mounted which makes me concerned it will look bad. But 20 degrees C less is huge so it may be worth it.
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That doesn't look too bad. It fits the theme with your hefty cpu cooler imo.

Mine is vertically mounted which makes me concerned it will look bad. But 20 degrees C less is huge so it may be worth it.
Vertically mounted I doubt you will even see the parts that are effected by removing the plastic, the parts you remove are on the back side of the card, the front still looks the same minus being a little shorter.

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