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I went through three different 5700xt's at microcenter. the MSI Evoke was overheating and blue screening, and had a cursor glitch, two rog editions had a cursor glitch and artifacts in games. happened on both displayport and hdmi on two different screens and even on a fresh install of windows, dim cursor and messed up cursor in games was infuriating. this is the reason I spent 150 more on a 2070 super. saving a few pennies isn't worth it if the card runs at nearly 90C gaming even on the rog edition. reference card? try like 94C max load. that is beyond scary especially for 7nm tech. so much for efficiency. I will never buy an AMD card ever again after that experience, not even if they outperform nvidia.

also there isn't a single AMD card faster than my midrange GPU so theres that
Both my navis are reference. Never see my Hot Spot temp go over 90c. I undervolt, tho, and keep my ambient at 25c.

My 5700 may not be as fast but what for? I took out 2 quads again last weekend in Apex by myself. I just enjoy gaming. No issues with my navis. No blackscreen, no flickering, none. I don't even use DDU.

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Those issues aside your judging the card by the hotspot temp. If you look at the edge temp it will be similar to Nvidia. And as far as I understand if Nvidia were to include a hotspot sensor it would be similar to what you see with amd.

People just freak out because they're not used to seeing that high number.
well if that's true then im kinda irritated that I've never known the real temps of my gpu until using a 5700xt, and maybe my water-cooling will give me more overclocking headroom seeing I thought I was only getting to like 75C on my gpu in benchmarks overclocked

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I went through three different 5700xt's at microcenter. the MSI Evoke was overheating and blue screening, and had a cursor glitch, two rog editions had a cursor glitch and artifacts in games. happened on both displayport and hdmi on two different screens and even on a fresh install of windows, dim cursor and messed up cursor in games was infuriating. this is the reason I spent 150 more on a 2070 super. saving a few pennies isn't worth it if the card runs at nearly 90C gaming even on the rog edition. reference card? try like 94C max load. that is beyond scary especially for 7nm tech. so much for efficiency. I will never buy an AMD card ever again after that experience, not even if they outperform nvidia.

also there isn't a single AMD card faster than my midrange GPU so theres that
you bought two cards with known issues - thats kinda your fault. There are other 5700XT cards that don't suffer from issues and those issues are down to the AIB partner not AMD
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you bought two cards with known issues - thats kinda your fault. There are other 5700XT cards that don't suffer from issues and those issues are down to the AIB partner not AMD
I sort of agree... There's a reason the most sold AMD graphics card brands are Sapphire, XFX and PowerColor. Asus, MSI and Gigabyte generally don't treat AMD GPUs like they should. For nVidia it doesn't matter if you buy a brand that supports both vendors, but for AMD, generally you're better off buying the exclusive partners.
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Additionally, those AIBs cheeped out or were negligent when it came to those and other cards. Not really AMD's fault (mind you AMD should be clamping down on this type of neglect from AIBs). Some of them mistreat AMD cards like they use to with AMD mobos prior to Zen.

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you bought two cards with known issues - thats kinda your fault. There are other 5700XT cards that don't suffer from issues and those issues are down to the AIB partner not AMD
A: I live 0.7 miles from microcenter and can return anything for any reason of an excuse there is within 30 days or so

B: how is it my fault that manufactures make cards that are basically faulty from the factory?

that's like you saying its someones fault for buying a cpu that causes crashes. if intel made cpu's that had game crashes for no reason, they would be crucified by MILLIONS of people as far as reputation goes, and AMD gets no backlash whatsoever from this? Samsung was crucified for note 7's or whatever exploding. apple is being crucified for the scissor key switches failing and customers being asked to pay 300 bucks for a new top housing at repair shops that are apple certified.

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A: I live 0.7 miles from microcenter and can return anything for any reason of an excuse there is within 30 days or so

B: how is it my fault that manufactures make cards that are basically faulty from the factory?

that's like you saying its someones fault for buying a cpu that causes crashes. if intel made cpu's that had game crashes for no reason, they would be crucified by MILLIONS of people as far as reputation goes, and AMD gets no backlash whatsoever from this? Samsung was crucified for note 7's or whatever exploding. apple is being crucified for the scissor key switches failing and customers being asked to pay 300 bucks for a new top housing at repair shops that are apple certified.

AMD provide the chip not the cooler design. Its your fault for buying poorly designed cooled cards from AIB's. There is nothing wrong with the chips. AMD have been crucified for their drivers. clearly you don't use the information provided by reviewers when purchasing products. That is your fault.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ObiWanShinob1 View Post
I went through three different 5700xt's at microcenter. the MSI Evoke was overheating and blue screening, and had a cursor glitch, two rog editions had a cursor glitch and artifacts in games. happened on both displayport and hdmi on two different screens and even on a fresh install of windows, dim cursor and messed up cursor in games was infuriating. this is the reason I spent 150 more on a 2070 super. saving a few pennies isn't worth it if the card runs at nearly 90C gaming even on the rog edition. reference card? try like 94C max load. that is beyond scary especially for 7nm tech. so much for efficiency. I will never buy an AMD card ever again after that experience, not even if they outperform nvidia.

also there isn't a single AMD card faster than my midrange GPU so theres that
That last statement is false, your 2070 super doesn't beat a radeon VII

But can it run.... Angry Birds???

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That last statement is false, your 2070 super doesn't beat a radeon VII
Nope, that statement is true when referring to gaming and it uses less power.

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That last statement is false, your 2070 super doesn't beat a radeon VII

My 5670 1GB beats his 2070s at 100 mhz core.

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