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post #1791 of 16563 (permalink) Old 11-13-2013, 03:08 PM
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Dude, dude dude.....
Your first GPU is not a dud card, you just happen to be uneducated, sorry as harsh as this seems, its the truth.

For starters GPU test 1 in 3Dmark will make any card seem as if though its throttling, its a mix of CPU and GPU stressing.
Secondly, these cards work completely different from Titan and 780 so you need to understand the GPU before you make assumptions only 30 minutes after you've played with it.
My advice to you is find your max clock/voltage, bench the card, compare with the rest of the results on here, then after you've had the significant experience, you can make a statement without making a fool of your self. thumb.gif

The owners card is not a dud, but it's no where near representative of expected performance; NV states a boost clock on the box as a bare minimum boost under extreme circumstances, and almost all cards will boost higher than that out the box. His doesn't.

There's no word as to whether he's tried moving sliders in AB or PX, but regardless, that card is certainly below average for out-of-box imo

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Well, here's the comparisons I have done so far. Sorry it took so long, but its been a crazy week at work, so I'm just posting what I have so far. At least it should be enough for now for people to get an idea of what kind of increase in performance you'll see in a couple popular games and benches.


Well, here's the low-down... These results should give you an idea of the relative performance increase you'll see when going from a Classified with my clocks I used to a Ti, but not necessarily absolute, because it's not like I spent time closing every single app I could find, putting my max OC on my CPU, etc. So, these should just give you a relative idea, and my results might be higher or lower than others on the web because of my CPU speed, the scenes I chose to use in the games to do the testing, etc. For all tests, my CPU was at 4.6Ghz, HT disabled, RAM at 1866mhz. Same system, same drivers (331.65), Windows 8, and single-player mode for consistency. Results were recorded using Fraps. Let me know if my math is off anywhere, as I was in a hurry most of the time. No fancy graphs, simple Excel redface.gif

I also included some percentages, so people can easily see the scaling from the overclock on the Ti. I included my Classified at 1150mhz/6000mhz so people can compare performance of somewhat stock 780 clocks to the overclocked results. The clocks used for the Classified were selected because it's a rock-solid overclock at a very low voltage / temps, instead of taking the time to get the max overclock for each individual application and have clocks vary each test. I picked a similar overclock for the Ti, at around the same voltage (1.212v for the Ti, obviously) as the Classified and that is solidly stable so I wouldn't have to waste time crashing and redoing tests.

Max temp was 73C, stock non-ACX cooler. For longer tests like Heaven, that's not bad at all. Should be more than enough room to move the voltage a bit past 1.212v someday, a good bit more if I end up getting aftermarket cooling. Some of the results are quite impressive increases too, especially some of the Min's. And again...sorry I don't have more apps tested, but here's what I got so far: Results (Click to show)




Classified- 1150/6000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 25.1% increase
Classified- 1254/6300 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 15.6% increase



Classified- 1254/6300 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 16.5% increase



Classified- 1254/6300 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 16.4% increase



Classified- 1150/6000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 29% increase
Classified- 1254/6300 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 19.7% increase
Ti- 1045/7000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 22% overclock on core / 8.6% overclock on memory = 17.7% increase



Classified- 1150/6000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 29.8% increase
Classified- 1254/6300 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 29.8% increase
Ti- 1045/7000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 22% overclock on core / 8.6% overclock on memory = 19.6% increase



Classified- 1150/6000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 25.4% increase
Classified- 1254/6300 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 18.1% increase
Ti- 1045/7000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 22% overclock on core / 8.6% overclock on memory = 17.1% increase



Classified- 1150/6000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 26.5% increase
Classified- 1254/6300 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 21.6% increase
Ti- 1045/7000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 22% overclock on core / 8.6% overclock on memory = 17% increase



( sorry, forgot to set the axis to 0 :/ )
Classified- 1150/6000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 18% increase
Classified- 1254/6300 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 9.7% increase
Ti- 1045/7000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 22% overclock on core / 8.6% overclock on memory = 14.9% increase



Classified- 1150/6000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 33.3% increase
Classified- 1254/6300 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 10.8% increase
Ti- 1045/7000 ----> Ti- 1275/7600 = 22% overclock on core / 8.6% overclock on memory = 12.5% increase


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Why can't a non-European give you advice on this ? I mean aren't we smart enough ?

For what its worth, don't waste your money.
Side stepping from a GTX 780 is not worth the money since the performance difference is not really that noticeable in games.

Oh come on. Why do you make me look bad to my fellow US membes? tongue.gif I asked for EU members mainly because of the better understanding of our currency and it would helped me in a better way.

And I said "mostly" from EU members. I should have said "preferably". Wrong choice of word. wink.gif
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For what its worth, don't waste your money.
Side stepping from a GTX 780 is not worth the money since the performance difference is not really that noticeable in games.

Are you positive? A 1202/1950 780Ti over a 1254/1750 780 isnt noticable enough in games?

I will re-check the reviews/benchmarks and will be back. I'm only interested in its gaming performance for now.


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The owners card is not a dud, but it's no where near representative of expected performance; NV states a boost clock on the box as a bare minimum boost under extreme circumstances, and almost all cards will boost higher than that out the box. His doesn't.

There's no word as to whether he's tried moving sliders in AB or PX, but regardless, that card is certainly below average for out-of-box imo

I don't really think we have enough information from him yet to draw this conclusion. I think I saw all of his posts, he's still on a throttle bios, didn't give much information on what he's tried as far as overclocking, & has only discussed one bench known for throttling boost 2.0.
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The owners card is not a dud, but it's no where near representative of expected performance; NV states a boost clock on the box as a bare minimum boost under extreme circumstances, and almost all cards will boost higher than that out the box. His doesn't.

There's no word as to whether he's tried moving sliders in AB or PX, but regardless, that card is certainly below average for out-of-box imo

You don't understand, these cards work different from 780's.
Most cards won't maintain clocks on stock BIOS due to the new power delivery system. Your likely to hit a voltage wall and not a power target one on stock clocks.
These cards need to be understood before we make rash statements. He needs to find his max clock/voltage before he says a word.

EDIT: From what i have gathered, the card sets its own voltage. We have almost no control over that with this revision. The offsets are set and the card finds the correct voltage, sets it to the voltage needed for that clock.
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