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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 07-24-2018, 08:21 AM - Thread Starter
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Buy Cheap Blower Style GTX 1080 Ti or Multifan, Case Air Flow issues

I can get a ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 Ti for 530 but its a blower style card as you can see. I've heard they are good for cases with bad airflow.

Mine would fall under that category. It's ENERMAX iVektor ECA3310A. Pic of inside of my build is below. I have a 290 Vapor X and playing Witcher for 20 mins in the Texas summer gives me 90 degs. would you recommend getting this 1080 Ti or wait it out for prices to get lower for a multi fan one. I hate blowers being so noisy and I'd imagine this would run hot. But it would also appear that because of my case a multi fan system won't do me any good?

Or should I try and add additional fans to my system. And if so where. There are two options for the top of the case.

I also want to use my backup GTX 470 for Nvidiaworks which I think is still doable unless Nvidia disabled that? This is to help offload the load on the 1080 Ti. Display is qa 4K 3D HDR OLED TV. and my CPU is an i7 930 @ 3.8Ghz
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Everything in your system will probably bottleneck the 1080Ti, except for the PSU.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Nervoize View Post
Everything in your system will probably bottleneck the 1080Ti, except for the PSU.
Yeah I checked that. It will do it a little but I'm happy if I can get on avg 15 more fps than I do with my 290. And it seems like at 4K pushing the setting to Ultra, I won't have an issue:

This is a GTX 1080 card but this video illustrates why I am opting for a 1080 Ti at 4K:

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2 Fans in the front blowing in. 65 CFM minimum.
2 fans in the top blowing out. 65 CFM minimum.
1 fan in the back blowing out. 65 CFM minimum.

But like Nervoize said, you may have performance issues.

What are your rig specs?

4k on a 1080Ti is going to need some serious CPU throughput.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Renegade5399 View Post
2 Fans in the front blowing in. 65 CFM minimum.
2 fans in the top blowing out. 65 CFM minimum.
1 fan in the back blowing out. 65 CFM minimum.

But like Nervoize said, you may have performance issues.

What are your rig specs?

4k on a 1080Ti is going to need some serious CPU throughput.

Check my post directly above yours.

I am trying to run max settings on 4K with Nvidia works and 3D when applicable. I doubt that my i7 930 willl be a big bottleneck at such demanding resolution and settings. I checked reviews and it seems the 1080 Ti is my best option to get decent fps at max settings on 4K. Everything else hits too close around 30-40 fps for my liking

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Your platform is very old and will absolutely hold the 1080ti back...
I would go so far as to say you would benefit a lot from general system responsity by upgrading your CPU first with a cheaper GPU like the 1070 instead.
Adding more fans won't do much for your system, since the CPU will be a bottleneck no matter what. Getting a more powerful CPU will do much for your temps than more fans.
First get a new platform with a more powerful CPU and GPU, then think about adding two fans at the top blowing air out of the case. But until you remove the older components, it will not do much on its own.
For 4k gaming you do need a 1080ti to approach 60fps on max settings, but if you don't mind turning the settings down a peg the regular 1080 does the job as well.

As for processors, a 8600k from intel or ryzen 5 2600 both provide good results on 4k. Intel does do better overall due to higher clock however.

Another thing worth noting, I haven't seen any real performance gains from offloading tasks to a seperate GPU. It has had niche uses in the past, with hairworks and PhysX, but nowadays its better to keep it on one card to ensure stability. Troubleshooting SLI setups is a real pain.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gandlaf View Post
Your platform is very old and will absolutely hold the 1080ti back...
I would go so far as to say you would benefit a lot from general system responsity by upgrading your CPU first with a cheaper GPU like the 1070 instead.
Adding more fans won't do much for your system, since the CPU will be a bottleneck no matter what. Getting a more powerful CPU will do much for your temps than more fans.
First get a new platform with a more powerful CPU and GPU, then think about adding two fans at the top blowing air out of the case. But until you remove the older components, it will not do much on its own.
For 4k gaming you do need a 1080ti to approach 60fps on max settings, but if you don't mind turning the settings down a peg the regular 1080 does the job as well.

As for processors, a 8600k from intel or ryzen 5 2600 both provide good results on 4k. Intel does do better overall due to higher clock however.

Another thing worth noting, I haven't seen any real performance gains from offloading tasks to a seperate GPU. It has had niche uses in the past, with hairworks and PhysX, but nowadays its better to keep it on one card to ensure stability. Troubleshooting SLI setups is a real pain.
Even at 4k?!
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Quote: Originally Posted by junglechocolate View Post
Even at 4k?!
https://forums.geforce.com/default/t...does-it-work-/
Judging by how HairWorks and PhysX generally runs on the CPU, having a dedicated card seems redundant. Honestly haven't had much personal experience other than with borderlands 3, where I ran a 780 with a 560ti for physx without improved fps, so take it as is.
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HairWorks uses DirectX 11 tessellation, ergo PhysX card will be of no benefit.

LIR Andrew Burnes • 6 hours ago
Thanks, but what about cloth simulation and environment destruction?

Andrew Burnes Admin LIR • 6 hours ago
They run on the CPU.

Seeing as only some titles even allow you to use physx and hairworks via GPU, I'd go for a single GPU with a more powerful CPU to not have to deal with the hassle of troubleshooting it for each game.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gandlaf View Post
https://forums.geforce.com/default/t...does-it-work-/
Judging by how HairWorks and PhysX generally runs on the CPU, having a dedicated card seems redundant. Honestly haven't had much personal experience other than with borderlands 3, where I ran a 780 with a 560ti for physx without improved fps, so take it as is.
Andrew Burnes Admin LIR • 6 hours ago
HairWorks uses DirectX 11 tessellation, ergo PhysX card will be of no benefit.

LIR Andrew Burnes • 6 hours ago
Thanks, but what about cloth simulation and environment destruction?

Andrew Burnes Admin LIR • 6 hours ago
They run on the CPU.

Seeing as only some titles even allow you to use physx and hairworks via GPU, I'd go for a single GPU with a more powerful CPU to not have to deal with the hassle of troubleshooting it for each game.
Sure thing. And it'll add more load to the card and its less heat. Do you think buying a 1080 Ti SC for 520 is a good deal? Or should I wait it out for when 1180 comes out? I will not be upgrading my whole system for another year and half
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I personally upgrade piece by piece. So GPU one year, CPU one year, Memory or PSU, then wait for whenever I start demanding more performance.
Its really up to you. If I had your system, I would upgrade to the 1080Ti, the SC is a great card so no complaints there. Then next year, go for the 9600k or 9700k or w/e flavour of CPU is out at the time.

Keep in mind that theres always better stuff coming out to the market, if you wait theres always something new and improved. But you gotta get something new at some point, and the 1080ti SC is a proven product for 520? That's a great deal.
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