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My EVGA 2070 has a boost of 1710ish and it jumps to 1920-1935mhz during gaming. Its Nvidias boost. It will boost the card up until you hit a certain temp. It will throttle it back down when temps reach a higher degree.
It's not just temp limited...there is also the power limit and voltage to consider.

He's right though that's just the boost in action!

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Well that is the GPU reply to the flashing command attempt . If editing the file is not possible due to Cert validation the only way i see this happening is by flashing with a clip the Winbond bios chip on the GPU.

Something like this: https://www.overclock.net/forum/74-g...md-nvidia.html
Yeah, people have been having success with hardware programming tools on a number of Nvidia cards, most notably mobile GTX/RTX. This tool just added support for the mobile RTX 2060, 2070, and 2080: https://github.com/LaneLyng/MobilePa...eaker/releases

I've already confirmed that I can flash a stock BIOS to my card using a cheap $10 SPI programmer + clip-on adapter. Didn't even need to de-solder the SPI flash.

What we need is a tool for the desktop cards that supports modifying the BIOS, AND correcting the checksum. Then we can flash our 2070's with a modified BIOS using a hardware programmer.
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My EVGA 2070 has a boost of 1710ish and it jumps to 1920-1935mhz during gaming. Its Nvidias boost. It will boost the card up until you hit a certain temp. It will throttle it back down when temps reach a higher degree.
Quote: Originally Posted by Hequaqua View Post
It's not just temp limited...there is also the power limit and voltage to consider.

He's right though that's just the boost in action!
Ahhh... thanks, I didn't know.

I see MSI AB show power limit when it reaches it's top clocks... so I guess that's the cap. I already set power limit to 116%!

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Ahhh... thanks, I didn't know.

I see MSI AB show power limit when it reaches it's top clocks... so I guess that's the cap. I already set power limit to 116%!
Yea....sucks....lol

A lot of people cross flash the bios to one with a higher TDP limit. I did a lot of modding of the bios on the GTX970. That unlocked a lot of performance on those cards. Pascal and Turing....like everything else, they've taken most of the fun out of OC'ing.

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People with the 2070 Super form EVGA, 2 fans version, I summon you.

Could you please upload to techpowerup your bios extracted with GPU-Z?

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You can't use RPM as a value to compare different fan designs. Anyways I am using the Define R6 case. Currently with stock fans, bought some noctua replacement fans for some better air flow which are coming soon. Those will help a bit with hot air getting stuck at top of the case.. 80C is fine considering I dont hear the card up to 2000RPM. Anything higher than that and you start to hear it slightly in a completely silent room.
The fans are fairly similar size of 90-100mm. You can compare GPU fans easily.
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BIOS: https://quti.io/tmp/TU104.rom (or) https://quti.io/tmp/TU104.rar
thank you, but I need the 10DE 1EC7 device id bios.

yours isn't valid.

thanks anyway.

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The fans are fairly similar size of 90-100mm. You can compare GPU fans easily.
Blade design still has impact how much noise it makes. I replaced my case fans with some noctua fans and now my 2070S windforce runs at 70-77C depending on games with 1700-1900RPM. Cooling of the windforce design is good. It would just heat up in my case to much.
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Anyone flash the bios on the Zotac 2070 Super Twin Fan to unlock Power Limits?

Edit: Settles to 2070mhz and 7900 mhz memory once it's warmed up. Need more power and cooling.
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i have 2070 super windforce oc (old) and just bought the 2070 super gaming oc 3x (new).
the gaming oc 3x heatsink design is almost almost the same as windforce oc, they both got 6 heatpipes with exactly the same distribution.
but the gaming oc 3x becomes more thicker on heatsink. also the windforce oc got ~78mm fans, and the gaming oc 3x got ~83mm fans.
so the gaming oc 3x has slightly larger fan size and much more thicker heatsink, while having the same heatsink design in terms of fin stack (3 parts) and heatpipe distributon (4+2+4 from left to right) and the same amount of 6 heatpipes in total.

so how important is the thickness of the heatsink, especially when it comes to ~250w (which is the 80TI level in the past).

official sites shows more details of the heatsink designs of these 2070 supers:
2070 SUPER™ WINDFORCE 8G; GV-N207SWF3-8GC; L=280.35 W=116.45 H=40.24 mm
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Ca...207SWF3-8GC#kf

2070 SUPER™ GAMING OC 3X 8G; GV-N207SGAMING OC-8GD; L=286.5 W=114.5 H=50.2 mm
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics...MING-OC-8GD#kf


i ran some furmark, locked the power limit to 240w, to see the differences of cooling performace in terms of gpu temperature and fans rpm.


this is WINDFORCE 8G (< 2 SLOTS)
the auto temp and rpm are 75c @ 2250rpm.
for ~400 rpm more or less, it resuts in ~5c differentials. but going even further lower to 1400rpm would then be hitting the temperature limit of 88c.



this is gaming oc 3x (>2 slots)
the auto temp and rpm are 69c @ 1875rpm. for ~400 rpm more at 2230rpm the temp is 64c and 400rpm more at 2650rpm is 62c only.
this one gives users more room to lower the fan speed until hitting the temp limit (85c @ 1000rpm).



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so, thicker heatsink design matters and seems to be very important on high power consumption (>200W).
and that gives us a very clear hint about how good could the windforce oc 3x be!
the windforce oc 3x (GV-N207SWF3OC-8GD) could be the cooling king among the entry level of 2070 supers.
this baby has 1 heatpipe cut (affecting the middle part of the 3 finstacks), but got the same gaming oc 3x's heatsink thickness and fan sizes.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Ca...7SWF3OC-8GD#kf

windforce oc (old) is <2 slots; 6 heatpipes; ~78mm fan.
windforce oc 3x (new) is >2 slots; 5 heatpipes; ~83mm fan.


the above tests are run inside p600s with case fans and cpu fans maxed out. the p600s's top and front metal covers are used.

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