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post #381 of 448 (permalink) Old 09-14-2019, 07:28 AM
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i have 2070 super windforce oc (old) and just bought the 2070 super gaming oc 3x (new).
the gaming oc 3x heatsink design is almost almost the same as windforce oc, they both got 6 heatpipes with exactly the same distribution.
but the gaming oc 3x becomes more thicker on heatsink. also the windforce oc got ~78mm fans, and the gaming oc 3x got ~83mm fans.
so the gaming oc 3x has slightly larger fan size and much more thicker heatsink, while having the same heatsink design in terms of fin stack (3 parts) and heatpipe distributon (4+2+4 from left to right) and the same amount of 6 heatpipes in total.

so how important is the thickness of the heatsink, especially when it comes to ~250w (which is the 80TI level in the past).

official sites shows more details of the heatsink designs of these 2070 supers:
2070 SUPERâ„¢ WINDFORCE 8G; GV-N207SWF3-8GC; L=280.35 W=116.45 H=40.24 mm
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Ca...207SWF3-8GC#kf

2070 SUPERâ„¢ GAMING OC 3X 8G; GV-N207SGAMING OC-8GD; L=286.5 W=114.5 H=50.2 mm
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics...MING-OC-8GD#kf


i ran some furmark, locked the power limit to 240w, to see the differences of cooling performace in terms of gpu temperature and fans rpm.


this is WINDFORCE 8G (< 2 SLOTS)
the auto temp and rpm are 75c @ 2250rpm.
for ~400 rpm more or less, it resuts in ~5c differentials. but going even further lower to 1400rpm would then be hitting the temperature limit of 88c.



this is gaming oc 3x (>2 slots)
the auto temp and rpm are 69c @ 1875rpm. for ~400 rpm more at 2230rpm the temp is 64c and 400rpm more at 2650rpm is 62c only.
this one gives users more room to lower the fan speed until hitting the temp limit (85c @ 1000rpm).



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so, thicker heatsink design matters and seems to be very important on high power consumption (>200W).
and that gives us a very clear hint about how good could the windforce oc 3x be!
the windforce oc 3x (GV-N207SWF3OC-8GD) could be the cooling king among the entry level of 2070 supers.
this baby has 1 heatpipe cut (affecting the middle part of the 3 finstacks), but got the same gaming oc 3x's heatsink thickness and fan sizes.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Ca...7SWF3OC-8GD#kf

windforce oc (old) is <2 slots; 6 heatpipes; ~78mm fan.
windforce oc 3x (new) is >2 slots; 5 heatpipes; ~83mm fan.


the above tests are run inside p600s with case fans and cpu fans maxed out. the p600s's top and front metal covers are used.

What did you buy the 2nd one for? Planning on nvlink?


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no, i am jsut sick of that ****.
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All the owners of MSI Armor, Gaming, maybe other variants with this same PCB might find this interesting:

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From the start i want to say that I'm green at this kind of stuff but i made some research.
I want to upgrade to 2070 super and I hesitate between Gigabyte Aorus and Palit JS.
The Palit is a bit cheaper and as far as I know it's pretty cool therefore good for some OC.
The gigabyte on the other hand is more expensive (around 40$ after conversion) but offers more output slots, a bit more boost clock from the get-go (1905 vs 1815 although maybe it shouldn't count as i plan to OC slightly anyway (?)) aswell as usb-c (I do not plan on using it but it's better to have it than not).
I have gigabyte 760 windforce oc 4gb now, i've never had any experience with Palits though.
I think i will go with Palit JS.
What would you propose?

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Hi!
I want to buy a 2070 super. Now on my market i have Asus 2070 Super Strix 8G with Modern Warfare for a low price.
I know it has a much lower power limit than O8G. Can i succesfully update the bios to Strix O8G? Or may i buy the O8G? Thanks!

(Or maybe may i go for Palit 2070 Super Gamerock premium for same price as Strig 8G)?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cobra652 View Post
Hi!
I want to buy a 2070 super. Now on my market i have Asus 2070 Super Strix 8G with Modern Warfare for a low price.
I know it has a much lower power limit than O8G. Can i succesfully update the bios to Strix O8G? Or may i buy the O8G? Thanks!

(Or maybe may i go for Palit 2070 Super Gamerock premium for same price as Strig 8G)?


Okay,thanks!
So i can, now i have a Strix 2070 Super O8G for the price of strix 8g (+ modern warfare bundle).
The card runs fine with the factory O8G settings,and more. With a fast OC (i dont try more), i got 2125mhz / 7700mhz stable on air.
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Quote: Originally Posted by asdkj1740 View Post
so, thicker heatsink design matters and seems to be very important on high power consumption (>200W).
and that gives us a very clear hint about how good could the windforce oc 3x be!
the windforce oc 3x (GV-N207SWF3OC-8GD) could be the cooling king among the entry level of 2070 supers.
this baby has 1 heatpipe cut (affecting the middle part of the 3 finstacks), but got the same gaming oc 3x's heatsink thickness and fan sizes.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Ca...7SWF3OC-8GD#kf

windforce oc (old) is <2 slots; 6 heatpipes; ~78mm fan.
windforce oc 3x (new) is >2 slots; 5 heatpipes; ~83mm fan.
Great analysis! I'm eyeing the Windforce OC3X because it seems to be the cheapest partner 2070S with a non-reference cooler. Yours is the first time I've seen these two compared. It's impossible to find reviews for these non-top-tier aftermarket cards. I wonder how much worse off the lack of the 6th heatpipe is given the larger thickness and fans. It's a $50 (aka 10%) differential to the next Gigabyte up (the Gaming)!
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Okay,thanks!
So i can, now i have a Strix 2070 Super O8G for the price of strix 8g (+ modern warfare bundle).
The card runs fine with the factory O8G settings,and more. With a fast OC (i dont try more), i got 2125mhz / 7700mhz stable on air.
What is this magic? Did you flash a new card BIOS? I've never tried this, but those results are intense
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Not magic. Same cards, same coolers, different bios, different price + a little silicon lottery.
I bought an Asus Strix 2070 Super 8G today. Saved the factory bios first. After that i tried to flash Strix 2070 super O8G bios (from Techpowerup verified). Its installed succesfully with nvflash.
Simple Strix 8G has 269w TDP limit, with factory clocks. Strix O8G has 319W tdp limit with much higher clocks. So after bios flashed, i got O8G clocks with O8G TDP limit. I checked the O8G factory clocks for a hour (games,benchmarks) and its stable,a tried OC.


I tried more OC since the pics. Now, the card was start at 2155mhz in games/benches, but after 2-3 minutes the clocks dropped to 2135 because of temps. Its stable. At 2190Mhz its freezing after 1 minutes with the air cooler. I try to add water in the next 1-2 month.

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Great analysis! I'm eyeing the Windforce OC3X because it seems to be the cheapest partner 2070S with a non-reference cooler. Yours is the first time I've seen these two compared. It's impossible to find reviews for these non-top-tier aftermarket cards. I wonder how much worse off the lack of the 6th heatpipe is given the larger thickness and fans. It's a $50 (aka 10%) differential to the next Gigabyte up (the Gaming)!
i bought the gaming oc 3x simply for testing this out. it is very interesting although i still cant get the old windforce sold.

bear in mind that the 3x versions has the type c output cut, and this saves the vendors around $10usd, not to mention the 3x version's pcb has got some changes like the capacitiors of input and output filtering. the windforce oc 3x should be at least the same price as before or even slightly cheaper.

the gaming oc 3x has already shipping out but as far as i know the windforce oc 3x is not yet started to ship.
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