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post #8291 of 8379 (permalink) Old 06-25-2019, 10:28 AM
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Trying to flash MSI Duke OC.

Getting the same problem as the fella above: https://www.overclock.net/forum/69-n...l#post28012994

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"XUSB FW component of the input GPU firmware image is imcompatible [sic], please use
a newer version of GPU firmware image for this product."

BIOS Cert 2.0 Verification Error, Update aborted.

Nothing changed!

ERROR: Invalid firmware image detected.
=====================

Looks like an issue with the USB Type-C connector firmware?

This is with both the 400W "unofficial" MSI bios, as well as the official Galax/KFA2 380W bios.

Insight would be much appreciated - it's a travesty that this card has been locked to a 111%/290w power limit.

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Quote: Originally Posted by RAGEdemon View Post
Trying to flash MSI Duke OC.

Getting the same problem as the fella above: https://www.overclock.net/forum/69-n...l#post28012994

====================
"XUSB FW component of the input GPU firmware image is imcompatible [sic], please use
a newer version of GPU firmware image for this product."

BIOS Cert 2.0 Verification Error, Update aborted.

Nothing changed!

ERROR: Invalid firmware image detected.
=====================

Looks like an issue with the USB Type-C connector firmware?

This is with both the 400W "unofficial" MSI bios, as well as the official Galax/KFA2 380W bios.

Insight would be much appreciated - it's a travesty that this card has been locked to a 111%/290w power limit.

Edit:
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I had no trouble flashing my Duke OC to the 380w BIOS. Can you post how you are trying to flash it? (Specific nvflash commands you're using.)

CPU: intel Core i9 9900K - 5 GHz x 8 cores - HT on - 1.26v - Air cooled
MOBO: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro
GPU: MSI Duke OC RTX 2080 Ti - 380w PL BIOS
RAM: G.Skill 32GB DDR4 3200 CL14 @ 3600 CL15 (Samsung B-die)
SSD: Samsung 970 EVO 1TB M.2 NVMe
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Thanks for the response.

The instructions and feedback from the prompts are 100% exactly as per the flashing instructions on in the first post. - Every response is also exactly in-line with those shown in OP... until this last section.

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c:\nvflash>nvflash64 --protectoff
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.560.0)
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.

Adapter: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (10DE,1E07,1462,3710) H:--:NRM S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00

EEPROM ID (EF,6014) : WBond W25Q80EW 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

Setting EEPROM software protect setting...

Remove EEPROM write protect complete.


c:\nvflash>nvflash64 -6 msi400w.rom
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.560.0)
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.


Checking for matches between display adapter(s) and image(s)...

Adapter: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (10DE,1E07,1462,3710) H:--:NRM S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00


EEPROM ID (EF,6014) : WBond W25Q80EW 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (1462.3715)
does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (1462.3710).

Please press 'y' to confirm override of PCI Subsystem ID's:
Overriding PCI subsystem ID mismatch
Current - Version:90.02.17.00.2E ID:10DE:1E07:1462:3710
GPU Board (Normal Board)
Replace with - Version:90.02.0B.40.56 ID:10DE:1E07:1462:3715
GPU Board (Normal Board)

Update display adapter firmware?
Press 'y' to confirm (any other key to abort):
EEPROM ID (EF,6014) : WBond W25Q80EW 1.65-1.95V 8192Kx1S, page

XUSB FW component of the input GPU firmware image is imcompatible, please use
a newer version of GPU firmware image for this product.

BIOS Cert 2.0 Verification Error, Update aborted.

Nothing changed!

ERROR: Invalid firmware image detected.

c:\nvflash>
=============

From my (uneducated) observation, the problem seems to be the firmware on my Duke is a later version than the one in the 400w / 380w firmwares. If you look at your original firmware version, I would wager that it is not 90.02.17.00.2E - or at least, not the same USB-typeC firmware component.

Presumably, it might seem that either a newer firmware needed, or a way to skip the USB-TypeC section of the firmware.

My uneducated 2 cents... Welcoming all responses in return

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On a related note: Was there a good reason you choose the 380w Galax over the 400w MSI? Do the 3 fans work as they should at the right speed? Do they still all stop on idle? Appreciate the info

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Quote: Originally Posted by RAGEdemon View Post
Thanks for the response.

c:\nvflash>nvflash64 -6 msi400w.rom
Try:

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nvflash64 -4 -5 -6 msi400w.rom
Since the MSI Trio is a 3 (power) connector card and the Duke OC is a 2 connector reference PCB card, you should use the 380w BIOS for best results.

One of the fans still turns at idle, the other 2 do not, with the 380w BIOS.

CPU: intel Core i9 9900K - 5 GHz x 8 cores - HT on - 1.26v - Air cooled
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GPU: MSI Duke OC RTX 2080 Ti - 380w PL BIOS
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SSD: Samsung 970 EVO 1TB M.2 NVMe
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Thanks, but Unfortunately:

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c:\nvflash>nvflash64 -4 -5 -6 msi400w.rom
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.560.0)
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.


Command format not recognized

Press 'Enter' to list of the available commands, or 'Q' to quit.

============

nvflash64 description does not show any meaning for option -4 nor -5. What do they do? I think these are outdated flags.

With respect, I would like to try something well documented and tested - my pockets are unfortunately very shallow when it comes to £1,200 graphics cards

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nice score!! I don't think I have the gut to shunt mod my card. It will void the warranty, won't it? for the CPU Score, at may be down to BIOS settings optimization including memory timing tuning since I used Raja's B-Die single rank preset.
Yes 100% voids warranty. I don't mind as i've had this card already for about 6 months and it hasn't died yet. I don't see it dying any time soon. I do have 16Gb sticks that don't tighten well. But sometimes if you run the test again your cpu score goes normal. Idk why that happens

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Quote: Originally Posted by RAGEdemon View Post
Thanks, but Unfortunately:

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c:\nvflash>nvflash64 -4 -5 -6 msi400w.rom
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.560.0)
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.


Command format not recognized

Press 'Enter' to list of the available commands, or 'Q' to quit.

============

nvflash64 description does not show any meaning for option -4 nor -5. What do they do? I think these are outdated flags.

With respect, I would like to try something well documented and tested - my pockets are unfortunately very shallow when it comes to £1,200 graphics cards
It's possible -4 and/or -5 are obsolete now. They were various overrides to force the flash.

CPU: intel Core i9 9900K - 5 GHz x 8 cores - HT on - 1.26v - Air cooled
MOBO: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro
GPU: MSI Duke OC RTX 2080 Ti - 380w PL BIOS
RAM: G.Skill 32GB DDR4 3200 CL14 @ 3600 CL15 (Samsung B-die)
SSD: Samsung 970 EVO 1TB M.2 NVMe
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G3
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I tried everything with the guys on discord we couldn’t get it to flash, let me know if you have any luck
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I tried everything with the guys on discord we couldn’t get it to flash, let me know if you have any luck
Hi there

Can you please try this there
c:\nvflash>nvflash64 --protectoff -6 msi400w.rom

If I remember correctly, this I needed to use with second BIOS on my Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix because I couldn't flash there BIOS

Hope this helps

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Hi there

Can you please try this there
c:\nvflash>nvflash64 --protectoff -6 msi400w.rom

If I remember correctly, this I needed to use with second BIOS on my Asus RTX 2080Ti Strix because I couldn't flash there BIOS

Hope this helps

Thanks, Jura
That doesn't work mate. "--protectoff" generally needs to be on a separate line preceding the flash command regardless.

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