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post #21 of 67 (permalink) Old 02-21-2019, 11:31 AM
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I've had my fair share of 1080tis. I never thought it was all omgz since I had a titan x pascals since 2016 and 1080tis were just a minor cutdown with faster ram. I also recently have 4 2080s on hand. 3 strix ocs and 1 trio. I didn't find the 2080s all that amusing or of interest during launch. Having compared the 2080 and 1080ti myself. I honestly would say the 2080 is a better card. Perhaps not worth the jump to from a 1080ti but non the less a better card. I think as we move towards newer releases the difference will become more apparent. My best 1080ti vs my best 2080 the 2080 still pulls ahead but more than 3-4% like reviewers want to point out. As for the 2080ti the thing is a beast (this isn't about pricing) and anyone whos hating on it either cant afford it or just wants to play the denial game. As for the 1k gpu game. You can get 2080tis for 1k the non a chips. They are slower and it can go up to a 10-12% difference unless you hard mod the non a obviously.
It's not about pricing but if you don't have one you obviously can't afford one.
Nothing to do with being a consumer (who effectively controls the market). Literally the ONLY reason to dislike the 2080 TI is becasue you're too poor or becasue you're...in denial? Denial about what I'm not sure but those are the only two reasons, yep.

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Nvidia pricing hasn't changed all that much from titan Xp to 2080ti
Of which 2080ti is actually more worth it than the titan Xp was at 1200.us

Third party venders have juiced the 2080ti series costs more than nvidia has.

I pass also but value well depends on how one looks at it I suppose the titan Xp was also gouging seeing the pisspoor performance over the 1080ti but bitcoin screwed all the prices up for ever

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personally I'm wanting to move from my 1080Ti to a 2080/Ti as with driver maturity the newer gen will start to gap the previous. Also I'm not happy about the 2080Ti's pricing but seeing the performance you're paying for then I can understand since Nvidia pretty much turned the Ti's into a "Titan-esk" tier. The issues w/ the Ti's has been what has held me back from buying one, since all I have to do is take my Ti back to MicorCenter along w/ a couple other pieces of hardware that are under their Replacement plan and bam I can get a 2080TI and replacement plan. Sure there are alot of things I would rather spend $1-1500 USD on like a new camera body since I need an update/upgrade in that department too.

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Quote: Originally Posted by DarthBaggins View Post
personally I'm wanting to move from my 1080Ti to a 2080/Ti as with driver maturity the newer gen will start to gap the previous. Also I'm not happy about the 2080Ti's pricing but seeing the performance you're paying for then I can understand since Nvidia pretty much turned the Ti's into a "Titan-esk" tier. The issues w/ the Ti's has been what has held me back from buying one, since all I have to do is take my Ti back to MicorCenter along w/ a couple other pieces of hardware that are under their Replacement plan and bam I can get a 2080TI and replacement plan. Sure there are alot of things I would rather spend $1-1500 USD on like a new camera body since I need an update/upgrade in that department too.
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Still hasn't pushed me to actually doing the swap waiting for the price drop lol

MC did get a msi sea hawk with ek block nice boost clocks
Bottom line it's just a FE so nothing out of the ordinary but some people say FE or not doesn't matter
The MSI 2080ti sea hawk boost clock is the same as the evga 2080ti ftw3 ultra's. but with a water block and still 100.us less.
But still some change to pull the trigger.

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..but bitcoin screwed all the prices up for ever
I really hope it's not going to be forever , but the last bitcoin crisis did bork the GPU market , and we're seeing one form of those consequences in the new pricing..


I,for one have not regretted getting my 1070ti used , and will def be on the lookout for a used 1080ti deal when(if) I upgrade this year..


It's a cost/performance ratio tailored for my needs-I just haven't got the funds needed for a new system upgrade and a 2080tifor the performance I need..

I believe that if there is one card that will show,if I may,"FineWine" properties like AMD cards,that is the 1080ti..

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Titans were always ripoffs.

You guys can try and justify it all you want but the fact is there's zero excuse for the price increase from the 1080 ti to the 2080 ti. We should expect a 30 - 50% increase in performance every gen for around the same price range. Not a 30 - 50% increase for 50% more money. Had the 2080 ti's been in the $800 - $900 range I'd say it were an acceptable increase for the performance but for what they did. Just no.

For me, I'm personally done with buying gpu's until things get sorted out. I'll buy used before I feed Nvidia more of my cash.
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Titans were always ripoffs.

You guys can try and justify it all you want but the fact is there's zero excuse for the price increase from the 1080 ti to the 2080 ti. We should expect a 30 - 50% increase in performance every gen for around the same price range. Not a 30 - 50% increase for 50% more money. Had the 2080 ti's been in the $800 - $900 range I'd say it were an acceptable increase for the performance but for what they did. Just no.

For me, I'm personally done with buying gpu's until things get sorted out. I'll buy used before I feed Nvidia more of my cash.



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Hi,
Boom ditto

Still hasn't pushed me to actually doing the swap waiting for the price drop lol

MC did get a msi sea hawk with ek block nice boost clocks
Bottom line it's just a FE so nothing out of the ordinary but some people say FE or not doesn't matter
The MSI 2080ti sea hawk boost clock is the same as the evga 2080ti ftw3 ultra's. but with a water block and still 100.us less.
But still some change to pull the trigger.
Part of me was looking at the ASUS Turbo or EVGA Black since I want a dual slot card, I'm not a fan of the triple slot at all and can live w/ a dual slot even though I'd prefer Single slot like w/ my current card. But I do want the best performance on a OE PCB since I'll grab a block and backplate (if needed) from MC when/if I get the 2080Ti.

It's a shame the DLSS has been a flop so far since that was one of my deciding factors on this new gen.

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Big time buyers remorse over the titan Xp no doubt on my part
1080ti's were freaking outrageous at the time I needed a gpu and it was only 200.us more
I'm still kicking myself for not returning titan Xp as thermally defective.

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Quote: Originally Posted by white owl View Post
It's not about pricing but if you don't have one you obviously can't afford one.
Nothing to do with being a consumer (who effectively controls the market). Literally the ONLY reason to dislike the 2080 TI is becasue you're too poor or becasue you're...in denial? Denial about what I'm not sure but those are the only two reasons, yep.
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Things that you can't afford or don't want to pay for isn't a reason to hate on something. There are plenty of unaffordable things for most people. Then you have the people hating on the card because based on reviews to them it's not worth the cost to upgrade (that's understandable) but why complain about something you have no interest in purchasing. I initially didn't want to take my loop apart on my main machine to do it because to me the 15-20% expectation coming from XPs wasn't exactly going to make a huge difference. However, I would gladly take one 2080ti over 2x 1080ti or xp. In my own experience playing the games i usually go thru ( which doesn't exactly always show up in reviewers lists) the avg of xp sli scaling across titles vs 1 2080ti turns out to be the same. To clarify, for those that have upgraded and spent some time gaming away on them it is a very good upgrade. Not amazing but very good. I have a 4k 144hz display so for me, I need the most gpu power I can get. Now you may ask why not jump on the rtx titan ( I have considered this but the gap is really too small even with shunting) to justify the extra. I've had over 30 2080tis come thru my hands. I sold most of them on CL and reddit and i kept the ones I liked the most. I got lucky in that i did it on launch so that 3 of mine were essentially free (yay free market). Having played with the oc duds 2080tis and the non A 2080tis has given me some insight into it all. It's not worth 1200 for a speific model over 1k model. I guess if you had a top 20% A chip then it would be worth it (but that's really gambling). I've had about 4 non A chips pass by me (I bought each of these for about 900-999) they top out around 1900 for most of them with the stock bios. Out of the 30 ish A chips I've gotten only a handful will do over 2100 stable in games not firestrike. The actual game fps difference of 200mhz is minor. Let's go back to when the 1080ti launched with a price tag of 649. As I look over my purchase history I cannot find 1 1080ti that I paid 649 for. I see posideons at 900, strixs at 800, msi gamings at low 700s, 4 assorted evga 1080tis at 750-900. So prices have been high. There's retail pricing then the price I actually paid for the model I wanted.

I recently started playing around with 2080s. My wifes rig had a 1080ti strix oc (2040 stable so not bad by any means) and I've been messing about 5 2080s in comparison to it. For example in apex legends alone it's a 10+ fps difference higher. I forsee in the long run the gap will enlarge in general across titles this is just natural. While we all would like to pay the same price year after year for a performance bump, that hardly works for anything in life not just gpus. Given that my average price for a 1080ti that i paid say with tax and all that bs is over 800, I don't find a 999 2080ti to my door from evga (my black edition was from evga on ebay) is all that bad all that's considered.
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