At least 950-1200 dollars I'd assume. You might as well just use it if it can fit in your case. MSI needs to realize that people want a dual fan more compact lightning not some huge triple fan monster that won't even clear the intake fans. Hopefully they will get it.
What did Nvidia set the MSRP on the 2080Ti, that's how much it's worth - $999 US oooops Nvidia lied so like the vendors you can set the price at whatever you want try your luck at $1699 what the hell. Mind you the RTX 2080Ti are not selling well, so good luck!
tell us in more detail about how they screwed everything up
It's an LN2 card with a 380w power limit that goes into safe mode when you flash it or update the driver without the fans plugged in. The only way to pass the 380w limit is with a special copy of afterburner only given to famous OCers or you can flash it with a real LN2 BIOS from a different card. The whole thing is a big joke for the price, useless for LN2 without an unlimited BIOS (though it's built for it) and if you put it under water you'd need to tear everything down to update the driver.
The cards aren't exactly rare, they're undesirable since they cost so much but don't really offer any thing cheaper cards don't have. I'd price it $100-$50 less than list price or just put it on eBay.
With latest ln2 bios from MSI, power limit is 400w. Real issue is voltage control that should allow manual settings but MSI is not giving that bios/afterbuner to normal customers.
I moved from basic Gigabyte card to this and with it's current issues it's worse than Gigabyte.
Sorry to ruin your business xHoLy.
Well yeah i agree with you guys, today i got LN2 bios and guide from MSI so we will see.
I recommend buying Galax OC Lab card if u want XOC without hassle. Lightning only if u have some LN2 scores to prove your competency and contacts on bigger overclockers.