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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 03-18-2019, 10:54 AM - Thread Starter
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GTX 970 needs to warm up for overclocking?

Hello there,

after trying for a very long time, I've finally managed to overclock my GTX 970 G1 Windforce to +110MHz Core (1489 total), +250MHz Memory (3758mHz in Afterburner) and to 1.262V.
The problem is that I have to start the game first without overclocking and then I can overclock, otherwise games crash instantly.
In benchmark I have no problems with these settings but games are my only problem.
I have the feeling that my graphics card has to warm up first? When I start a game with my GTX already overclocked, I don't even see the voltage / clock speed go up to its maximum, it just instantly crashes / blackscreen.

Does anyone have a suggestion? I couldn't find this problem on the internet before.

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Take a look in the Maxwell BIOS editing thread. Just edit the BIOS to remove Boost functionality altogether. I did that with my old 970's back in the day.

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After some research I decided to stop overclocking.
I have read that a lot of people experience a similar problem and somebody found out that it happens because of the sudden spike in voltage / clock speed.
The solution to this would be to set a minimum voltage to like 1.200V but I don't really want this (actually I tried it with modding the BIOS in Maxwell Tweaker but Windows blocked my graphics card after flashing the BIOS so I reverted it and decided to leave it on stock clocks).

Thanks for your suggestion with disabling boost though. I saw a gtx 970 bios editing guide here on overclock.net but I would have to change a lot of values and don't really want to risk a lot.
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I owned a GTX 970 G1 Gaming and ran MUMOD BIOS for about 3 years and stock for a year. You shouldn't be having these problems. It sounds like a software issue to me. Try setting the Nvidia power mode in the control panel to "Prefer Maximum Performance". This will keep the card from dropping into the lowest power profile. It will not harm the card in any way. Other than that, try a fresh OS install. You should have no issues hitting +100 MHz on the core.

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It's not safe to overclock anything when a generic power supply is powering a system. Whenever I see "500W PSU", I see "Generic PSU". This could be the culprit of your negative experience here.


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Some generic PSU's aren't bad at all. Have you seen GamersNexus' testing of the Walmart Overpowered PSU? That crappy Great Wall PSU did just fine.

And yeah sure a bad PSU could be his issue, but it is almost certainly a software problem by the description. He's only got a 4570 and the 970 draws an almost negligible amount of power. I would be completely surprised if his whole system hit over 350W at full chooch...

If his system has been running no problem before OC'ing, then adding 20W to his GPU draw ain't gonna cause any problems.

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Some generic PSU's aren't bad at all. Have you seen GamersNexus' testing of the Walmart Overpowered PSU? That crappy Great Wall PSU did just fine.

And yeah sure a bad PSU could be his issue, but it is almost certainly a software problem by the description. He's only got a 4570 and the 970 draws an almost negligible amount of power. I would be completely surprised if his whole system hit over 350W at full chooch...

If his system has been running no problem before OC'ing, then adding 20W to his GPU draw ain't gonna cause any problems.
I'm not referring to power draw. I'm referring to power stability. Low-quality PSUs can deliver extremely unstable power, which can cause problems like this (and worse).


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Yes, this is true, but it is most certainly not what's happening here. The card, according to the OP, is fine otherwise. If it can hit it's normal top or second to top power profile without issue, or switch between power profiles defined by Nvidia drivers, then his PSU isn't having a problem with the load.

Besides, we don't even know what PSU he has lol... And if it's recent and from a major brand, then there is a high probability it has OCP and OVP.

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