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post #11 of 33 (permalink) Old 05-06-2019, 02:40 PM
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A used 1080ti is the best option, but really 500-600 quid for a +2 year old card is alot. I think it is funny that the 2080 is as expensive as the 1080ti was back in the days yet performs barely the same. A 2080ti almost cost the double of what the 1080ti did back in the days, I don't feel their price settings anymore.

If im not wrong the 1070 performed a bit better than the 980ti and it had a competitive price. The 1080 performed notably better than the 980ti, but the 1080ti performed a whole lot better than the 980ti and it had a price that was still decent considering it was the fastest card available at that time. I feel the price is increasing and the performance increase between the generations are getting smaller. Why would anybody want to pay 800 quid for a 2080 when it performs similar to a 2 year old car that cost the same? Hah. The lucky ones are those that bought the 1080ti right before they got discontinued because you could get them for like 500 retail if im not misstaken. That is still 300 quid less than the 2080 and you get the same performance!

If I still had my old 980ti then I would be tempted to get another one and SLI it, and get similar performance to one 2080ti on 1440p, that is dope. But I don't like two cards due to microstutter.


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Depends where you are and if you can even get a 1080Ti close to those prices, let alone how long will it still run? Many pascal cards were mined on and abused, are quite old now with their life often coming to an end if used a lot. Sure the silicon may be fine, but the endless heat cycling, fan spining etc. puts stress on other components, solder joints, fans, ...
What I've actually heard is that miners take good care of their cards, more so than the average user

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Quote: Originally Posted by PachAz View Post
A used 1080ti is the best option, but really 500-600 quid for a +2 year old card is alot. I think it is funny that the 2080 is as expensive as the 1080ti was back in the days yet performs barely the same. A 2080ti almost cost the double of what the 1080ti did back in the days, I don't feel their price settings anymore.

If im not wrong the 1070 performed a bit better than the 980ti and it had a competitive price. The 1080 performed notably better than the 980ti, but the 1080ti performed a whole lot better than the 980ti and it had a price that was still decent considering it was the fastest card available at that time. I feel the price is increasing and the performance increase between the generations are getting smaller. Why would anybody want to pay 800 quid for a 2080 when it performs similar to a 2 year old car that cost the same? Hah. The lucky ones are those that bought the 1080ti right before they got discontinued because you could get them for like 500 retail if im not misstaken. That is still 300 quid less than the 2080 and you get the same performance!

If I still had my old 980ti then I would be tempted to get another one and SLI it, and get similar performance to one 2080ti on 1440p, that is dope. But I don't like two cards due to microstutter.
You can blame the people on this site, Nvidia's marketing, and the avg PC gamer that just goes with whatever Nvidia poops out. YOu have people that bought not just 1 but 2 2080 Tis.

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Get a used gtx 1080ti with warranty, try to negotiate with seller, even if it was used in mining. If you RMA you gtx 1080ti, then you can get RTX 2080ti or atleast RTX 2080 as replacement, since manufacturing of GTX 1000 series stopped already.
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Don't worry about mining. No one has ever proved that card used in mining perform less, this is myth. They might die early due to being used in very high temps for long time like 80-85c. But still you get newer RTX as replacement from company in RMA process. There are many miners who used gpus in AC room with 18-20c temp.
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Quote: Originally Posted by PachAz View Post
A used 1080ti is the best option, but really 500-600 quid for a +2 year old card is alot. I think it is funny that the 2080 is as expensive as the 1080ti was back in the days yet performs barely the same. A 2080ti almost cost the double of what the 1080ti did back in the days, I don't feel their price settings anymore.

If im not wrong the 1070 performed a bit better than the 980ti and it had a competitive price. The 1080 performed notably better than the 980ti, but the 1080ti performed a whole lot better than the 980ti and it had a price that was still decent considering it was the fastest card available at that time. I feel the price is increasing and the performance increase between the generations are getting smaller. Why would anybody want to pay 800 quid for a 2080 when it performs similar to a 2 year old car that cost the same? Hah. The lucky ones are those that bought the 1080ti right before they got discontinued because you could get them for like 500 retail if im not misstaken. That is still 300 quid less than the 2080 and you get the same performance!

If I still had my old 980ti then I would be tempted to get another one and SLI it, and get similar performance to one 2080ti on 1440p, that is dope. But I don't like two cards due to microstutter.
Isn't the jump from a "1080 Ti to 2080 Ti" bigger than a "980 Ti to 1080 Ti"? I agree that pricing sucks though.

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It's much lesser, going from 980Ti to 1080Ti you could expect from 30 to even 50% increase performance, now you get at most 35%. And according to techpowerup.com you could see gains as high as almost 100% by going for Pascal.

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Isn't the jump from a "1080 Ti to 2080 Ti" bigger than a "980 Ti to 1080 Ti"? I agree that pricing sucks though.
Even if it was higher, does the retail price justify the purchase? The 980ti was priced similar to the 1080ti inflation included. But the 2080ti almost cost the double of what the 1080ti did 2.5 years ago, that is almost 100% higher price for the top of the range card. As I said, even if I would build a new PC today, I wouldn't buy a 2080 or a 2080ti because I am not tempted to spend 700-900 quid on a card that performs as good as a 2.5 year old card, and I will not spend 1200-1400 quid on a top of the range card that has almost doubled in retail price compared to previous generations. It is expected that a range of products of the next generation will cost the same as previous, but having more performance. With nividia it is not correct. 2.5 years ago you had to spend 700 for the best gaming gpu (1080ti) and now you need to spend 1300. What about the next generation, if the price scale the same as between the 1080ti and 2080ti it means the next top of the range gaming card from nvidia will cost 2600 dollars. I think people should stop supporting a company that increase their prices with 100% for each generation.

I really don't feel intels price setting either, why should you pay almost 500 quid for a cpu that should have been a natural upgrade from the 7700k i.e. the 9700k. Price gap bewteen the 6700k and the 7700k was zero, 0, nada. Price gap between the 7700k and the 9700k is around 80 dollars, yeah you get 2 more cores and 4 more threads but that is expected in 2019 as intel has had 6c/12t cpu for the last 10 years.

I don't feel the PC market anymore and I will not spen a single penny on new hardware from this point due to nvidia and intels greedy strategy. I think you should do the same, you want a system with similar in game performance as a 2080 + 8700k or 9700k then get a used 1080ti and a 4790/6700/7700k cpu. It will cost alot less and you will have almost the same fps in games.


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Get a used gtx 1080ti with warranty, try to negotiate with seller, even if it was used in mining. If you RMA you gtx 1080ti, then you can get RTX 2080ti or atleast RTX 2080 as replacement, since manufacturing of GTX 1000 series stopped already.
this is simply not true. It's incredibly rare that they trade up your card, and even if they do, you'd get a 2080 in exchange for a 1080ti. Now then, there are rare situations like with the KPE, where no stock exists thus folks are getting a bump up to 20 series... SUPPOSEDLY. Still a 1080ti KPE is only gonna get you an SC 2080.

they only start trading up once all available stockpiles of refurbs are gone, which is usually years and years later, as RMA'd cards are cleaned up, parted out, fixed up, & sent back out as replacements for RMA'd cards. I RMA'd a 480 a couple years back, guess what I got back? A different 480! I've also gotten back the exact same card w/ repairs made to (new VRM, etc)

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