Originally Posted by Ha-Nocri
Yeah, cooler is crappy, drivers and not perfect, but what I didn't like is saying AMD doesn't have RT, so buy 2060. Who would use RT on a 2060 and lose half the frames?! And channels like Digital Foundry never pointed out NV doesn't have a-syn compute back in the day.
Buying either RTX 2060 is asinine now. RTX 2060 Super is a better buy than RTX 2060 until you look at RTX 2070 non-Super
which has dropped to around RTX 2060 Super. RTX 2060 Super still has extra frame buffer for non-realtime raytracing : i.e. rendering purposes such as Octane.
"On average, these cards were 185%
faster with RTX enabled" - https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/ar...ce-Boost-1384/
"Turing’s perks (possibly concurrent INT/FP) allows a mid-range card like the RTX 2060 to perform just as well as the last-gen Pascal-based Quadro P6000 (ignoring framebuffer limitations on the smaller card)."
"the RTX 2060 couldn’t render this scene at all" --- Sophie test on Autodesk Arnold
Redshift is going to gain proper support for NVIDIA's RT core in a future release, but even right now, RTX cards deliver very impressive performance, with the RTX 2080 surpassing TITAN Xp, and the 2080 Ti yet again sitting comfortably on top.
That's why AMD needed to price their cards at GTX 1660 Ti through RTX 2060 level. Instead they "jebaited" Nvidia
I am fairly certain if the RX 5700 was $299 (above GTX 1660 Ti which doesn't have RTX) and RX 5700 XT
was $379 both would be selling better as the custom cards would have ~10% leeway to price their custom coolers , instead of having them at $350 and $400. RTX 2070 Super is essentially RTX 2080 for $500; RTX 2060 Super is essentially RTX 2070 for $400. Power delivery is decent enough that the cheapest of RX 5700 series should be adequate if all they did was use reference board and add a half decent cooler while keeping warranty (unlike changing the cooler yourself).
What is probably going to end up happening is that all the AMD exclusive partners will have to make more effort than the AMD+Nvidia ones. For example, ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte can also copy coolers from their RTX 2080 series and put them on the RX 5700 series. They've done it before which is why die contact is poorer sometimes.
With ASUS announcing a September timeframe and MSI Launching a new EVOKE line for AMD, I would say wait for Sapphire Nitro. Sapphire was the only one to do Vega 56/Vega64 really properly. In its current state the best bet is an Arctic Accelero Twin Turbo III for ~$50 as it allows you to RMA (there's no thermal adhesive unlike the II).
AMD claims only 20% of the 50% improvement is from moving to 7nm