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post #11 of 55 (permalink) Old 08-06-2019, 03:34 PM
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2070s is the better purchase all around since they perform the same, but has RT and will come with a warranty. However, a used 1080Ti should be cheaper. In my country a used 1080ti costs about 150$-200$ less than a 2070s, the extra cash could be invested into something like a G12 + X42/X52 which would have tons of overclock potential, and will for sure beat the 2070s (and perhaps even close the gap with 2080s).
But again, for a buyer who just wants to get functional hardware for gaming and not for playing around with the hardware itself, a 2070s would work better.
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I have a very odd dilemma here.

I bought into the advertising and bought a Gigabyte 2070 Super Windforce 3x.

First thing I did was fire up Quake II RTX, and lo and behold, it was much MUCH faster than my 1080 Ti. Mission Accomplished, right? Then I decided to play a round of Overwatch.... which felt slower. This is when I decided to jump down the rabbit hole.

Enter a quick benchmarking session.


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For these tests, Gsync was disabled.




Valley Benchmark (1440p, all settings maxed)
2070 Super: 81.3 FPS
1080 Ti: 93.1 FPS


Fire Strike Ultra

2070 Super
Graphics: 5894
Overall: 5970

1080 Ti
Graphics: 7037
Overall: 7007




Timespy Extreme

2070 Super
Graphics: 4713
Overall: 4164

1080 Ti
Graphics: 4691
Overall: 4154



Port Royal (this is the ray tracing benchmark)
2070 Super: 5874
1080 Ti: 2118



Forza Horizion 4 Benchmark (1440P - All settings maxed)
2070 Super: 82 FPS
1080 Ti: 86 FPS


I also played a couple of rounds of Battlefield 1 at the same settings. 2070 averaged about 55 FPS, while the 1080 Ti averaged 70 on the same settings... *sigh*


/END benchmarking session.


Conclusion: Buyer's remorse.


I now have 3 options.

1. Sell the 1080 Ti
2. Sell the 2070 Super
3. Return the 2070 Super to Newegg.

What the heck should I do?



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thanks for stroking my two 1080ti's epeens, it's been awhile.

return. take restock loss.

in about 5 minutes of googling i've been able to see what you replicated here... not sure why you went on this trip if you already had the 1080tis. never step down if buying into the next tick, or you'll end up wanting to kick yourself. 2080 super would'a been the card to go to, to see slightly more perf, since that's how NV tends to do it.

IE: 480 = 570 = 660 = 750, etc.... that's the basic metric people hold them to / they seem to aim for.

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Usually, I would agree, but I kept reading EVERYWHERE that the 2070 Super was a side-grade from a 1080 Ti, so basically, I sell the 1080 Ti (which would sell no problem), and the 2070 Super would provide that RTX itch until the next big thing came along. I did not think it would be a downgrade.

This is why I hate this industry right now. It's stagnate. Progress has ground to a halt. It's extremely frustrating.



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I have a very odd dilemma here.

I bought into the advertising and bought a Gigabyte 2070 Super Windforce 3x.

First thing I did was fire up Quake II RTX, and lo and behold, it was much MUCH faster than my 1080 Ti. Mission Accomplished, right? Then I decided to play a round of Overwatch.... which felt slower. This is when I decided to jump down the rabbit hole.

What the heck should I do?



Newegg charges restocking fees (15% IIRC) unless the product was faulty or you have a Newegg Premier account though. I'd either claim it's faulty or eat the restocking fee and keep the 1080 Ti.

I have no interest in any RTX titles so I'm a bit biased though.

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I'll probably just sell the 2070 Super. More than likely, they will make me eat the game codes they gave me (roughly $90), so at that point, I would stand to lose less if I sell the 2070 Super second hand.



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what folks say, and what the numbers are showing, is that they're either equal to each other, or the 1080ti wins by 5-15% "side grades"

i'd still take the not barrel brand used $500 1080ti any day. idc about RTX until its a requirement to play modern titles, or until I can upgrade into some nice cheap used 2080tis this time next year, aver 30x0 or whatever is announced. Gotta buy after the anouncements, waiting til release can bite you in the arse, as card prices fluctuate like stock... but backwards, good news, old card values drop, bad news? old card values go up.

best example of this is Titan going from $700 used to $850+ after actual 9xx series benches hit.

I got back all but $350 from 3x GK110 titans thanks to that it was a good run too, if you got them @ launch.

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I'll probably just sell the 2070 Super. More than likely, they will make me eat the game codes they gave me (roughly $90), so at that point, I would stand to lose less if I sell the 2070 Super second hand.
good point, & new egg's a dick already anyways... i'd just hawk it.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post
Usually, I would agree, but I kept reading EVERYWHERE that the 2070 Super was a side-grade from a 1080 Ti, so basically, I sell the 1080 Ti (which would sell no problem), and the 2070 Super would provide that RTX itch until the next big thing came along. I did not think it would be a downgrade.

This is why I hate this industry right now. It's stagnate. Progress has ground to a halt. It's extremely frustrating.
Damn; that sucks (and sorry for suggesting the 2070s)!

This is exactly what I wanted to do too... Get rid of 1080ti (MSI Trio; card it too big for everything except my 750D, which was supposed to be my server case) and get a 2070s for a few $$ more. I swear ever benchmark I've seen on the super has it ~2-3% faster at all resolutions (granted they don't play every game).

Are BF1 numbers really that much lower in multiplayer rounds vs the single player (that is like 1/2 the frames: 1080ti ~130 at 1440 Ultra according to TPU; ~70 at 4k ultra [with a 4.8ghz 7700k]).
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I'll probably just sell the 2070 Super. More than likely, they will make me eat the game codes they gave me (roughly $90), so at that point, I would stand to lose less if I sell the 2070 Super second hand.
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