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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-08-2019, 05:21 AM - Thread Starter
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Advice needed, switching from 1080 to...2080S or 2080Ti ??

Hi Guys,

I'm an Old Gaming Fart end enjoy Gaming in 4K in General. And so far my 1080 was "okay'ish" as i could not afford an 1080 ti back then. But now as Games become more and more demanding, i would like to switch. As im became Older i lost a bit of overview tbh. But i tried to keep up. So i read a lot of stuff and watched some Benchmark Vids out there but i can't rly decide what to do and i simply can't afford a "mistake". So i thought i ask you by far more experienced Guys here and perhaps you are so kind and give an Old Man some advice or at least something to think about and or perhaps a perspective which i had not seen yet.

At first let me say that i am somewhat "limited" on two sides, Money and Vendor. I would like to stay in 4K ofc but i am Limited as many of you guys as well i suppose.
The 2 Cards i picked, based on what i have read in here are the following ones:

MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Super Gaming X Trio
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Palit GeForce RTX 2080 Ti GamingPro OC

The thing is, i would love to go for the MSI because it is cheaper, ofc, but will this Card rly help me push things in 4K. Yeah, i know already that the 2080's are not "that powerful" in 4K, but my old 1080 wasn't as well not "that good" but it worked. Sometimes good, sometimes not that good. Is there some good Room for OC'ing the MSI to get some good results in 4K or is my only choice the Palit Ti one?

As for the Palit, iv'e heard that it has some room for being OC'ed but i am not that sure. So even that it might not be the best Card out of the Box, i can do something to push it a bit. But then, there is the Pricing which is at my Vendor still roughly at 1.100€'s and.....yeah, that would be heavy for me to lift, so i have to choose wisely what i do.

What you guys say? What would you guys suggest me to go for / to do? I appreciate all Tips/Hints/Vid Links i can look/read up.
I really hope to get some answers from you as i would like to push the "Buy Button" this evening to have it for the Weekend.

Thx a TON to everyone which would like to give a Hand to an Old Gaming Fart here!! Thx for even reading my "Dilemma".


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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-08-2019, 05:27 AM
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Native 4k is expensive and you will never have enough performance, well unless you use 4k60 monitor at which point staying with 1440p144 is a better option and experience overall.

These top end cards are insanely priced especially this generation it's on yet another level due to monopoly on market and the performance segment.
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Native 4k is expensive and you will never have enough performance, well unless you use 4k60 monitor at which point staying with 1440p144 is a better option and experience overall.

These top end cards are insanely priced especially this generation it's on yet another level due to monopoly on market and the performance segment.
Hi and thx for your reply!!

I already own a 4K60 Monitor, which i be playing on for some years now. Thankfully that is not on my "must/would like to buy" list. And yeah, the momentary pricing as well as the "General Series Release" is a bit of a ....letdown. Is that the right wording for it? Or is "not that satisfying" describing it better? But regardless...i would like to "Move on" and so i have to deal with that "Devil" now. I am not happy with that, be assured.
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hi,

  • going from 1080 to 2080S = 35% bump in 4k
  • going from 1080 to 2080Ti = 70% bump in 4k

from personal experience, even 1080ti currently is not enough for current games @ 4k. We also wont be seeing anything until next summer presumably regarding top performance and lower pricing. Good luck with your purchase.

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Quote: Originally Posted by keikei View Post
hi,

  • going from 1080 to 2080S = 35% bump in 4k
  • going from 1080 to 2080Ti = 70% bump in 4k

from personal experience, even 1080ti currently is not enough for current games @ 4k. We also wont be seeing anything until next summer presumably regarding top performance and lower pricing. Good luck with your purchase.
Yeah

But these Numbers you mentioned are giving a better idea what i will get roughly. I tried to find some Benchmarks, but the most i was able to find are 1080Ti vs 2080/2080Ti and so forth (vs 2060/2070 and whatnot), not something i was looking for. Thx for your time!
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Quote: Originally Posted by keikei View Post
hi,

  • going from 1080 to 2080S = 35% bump in 4k
  • going from 1080 to 2080Ti = 70% bump in 4k

from personal experience, even 1080ti currently is not enough for current games @ 4k. We also wont be seeing anything until next summer presumably regarding top performance and lower pricing. Good luck with your purchase.
neither the 2080 tis..
theres a good amount of games where the "MIGHTY" 2080ti struggles to keep 60 avg and there some demanding games which do between 40s and it will just get worst..

if im buying a 2080ti to butcher settings or resolutions bcuz it cant keep 60 avg including 1%s for that price pffff im doing something wrong is either 4k/60 ultra settings for that $$$$ or nothing
1080ti sweet resolution is 3072x1728 it looks almost identical to 4k without that perf hit..

i just dont see myself paying $1200 for a gpu to do the same lol


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neither the 2080 tis..
theres a good amount of games where the "MIGHTY" 2080ti struggles to keep 60 avg and there some demanding games which do between 40s and it will just get worst..

if im buying a 2080ti to butcher settings or resolutions bcuz it cant keep 60 avg including 1%s for that price pffff im doing something wrong is either 4k/60 ultra settings for that $$$$ or nothing
1080ti sweet resolution is 3072x1728 it looks almost identical to 4k without that perf hit..

i just dont see myself paying $1200 for a gpu to do the same lol
maybe next year, AMD has a good enough architecture that currently is matching more expensive video card from nvidia if they outperform the 2080Ti they will be forced to release a bigger turing chip
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Hi,
Yeah the lower 20 series cards are just what they are an attempt to push rtx of some type to the masses
Super release is just nvdia doing what nvidia does to keep buzz going.

I'm skipping this series completely frankly 2080ti has the grunt but at the price tag just isn't worth it for all of the gpu deaths reported early on
Those deaths have slowed quite a bit but I do not live for rma shipping... I just have no taste for it.

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I'm not expecting anything with better raw performance (not value) than the 2080 ti at 4k gaming for another 2 years. If you want to get as close as possible to 4k 60fps, at the highest settings, the 2080ti is your best bet.

The 2080S is still in the ballpark of what a 1080ti would do and only you can judge how much more money a few more settings on high instead of medium is worth to you. The 1080 is still a good card.

If you're tight on money you could wait longer for amd to release 'big navi', and it might lower the prices on the 2080ti finally, or with luck, give it an actual competitor in performance.
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Hm.....

I know that the 2080Ti is to expensive, you can read that nearly everywhere and it seems that Gamers around the World where never "that united" when it comes to that judgement.
So.....would it be better then to buy the MSI and switch to 1440p instead of 4K? Would that be the "better" price value?
Even that i dislike that i can't use the Potential of my Monitor and for me, 4K is rly nice to look at. Hmm......

I have to think about that Option perhaps a bit more.
The MSI X Trio seems a decent Card so far and would give a nice Boost. Hmmm.....

Thx to all of you guys for making me think more. Keep it coming if you have some other suggestions.
I was never an AMD Fan tbh, and waiting that long until the "eventually" come out with something that "might" beat that 2080Ti or is even, i dunno.
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